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neadods ([personal profile] neadods) wrote2010-06-07 06:11 pm

My $.02 on the Torchwood News

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To keep this from being entirely content free, and because everyone's posting their $.02 about Torchwood being picked up: (WARNING: I'm not squeeing)

Starz can afford it, at least. It shouldn't look or be cheap. And it sounds like John Barrowman and Eve Myles will get some free trips out of filming.

However, it's being run by the exact same team and RTD has already said that the first episode is "shocking and touching," for which I read "bloodsoaked and emotionally manipulative." As I still have not forgiven them for the end of COE, I intend to neither be shocked, touched, nor watching. Maybe if they get through without killing off 60% of the cast and torturing children to death onscreen, I'll catch up after.
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[personal profile] mtgat 2010-06-08 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Eleven Spoilers: In "Amy's Choice," even if it hadn't been obvious that fake Leadworth was fake, the second they vaporized the sprogs, it was clinched that this couldn't possibly be real. The Moff brings little kids back from the dead. Rusty sends them there for fun and profit. :P

[identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
the second they vaporized the sprogs, it was clinched that this couldn't possibly be real.

Yeah, I thought that too. There's a lot I'm surprised I don't like about the Moffat era, but underaged snuff onscreen for LoLz is never going to be one of them.

Have I ever subjected you to the cozy/hardboiled analogy? It comes from the mystery genre, but it works so very nicely when held up to world views in general.
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[personal profile] mtgat 2010-06-08 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know that you have. Share?

[identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
As I said, this came out of the mystery genre, which is subdivided into cozy and hardboiled. Someone at a Malice Domestic once pointed out that although there are certain expected features of each (cozy = amateur detective, hardboiled = usually a pro) what REALLY distinguishes them is the underlying worldview:

Cozy - The world has a fundamental order; people as a whole are generally good. Something has happened to breach the order and it is up to the hero/ine to re-establish balance so everyone can live in peace.

Hardboiled - The world is uncaring and tends to chaos; people are at best self-interested and usually out for what they can get. The hero/ine is staving off entropy and the predation of the weak by the strong until s/he inevitably falls in battle.

Superman, cozy; Batman hardboiled. Buffy, cozy; Angel, hardboiled. Doctor Who, cozy; Torchwood, hardboiled.
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[personal profile] mtgat 2010-06-08 01:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I like this analogy.

[identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com 2010-06-08 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
It really seems to sum up the two fundamental types of storytelling.