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neadods ([personal profile] neadods) wrote2011-12-30 06:59 pm
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Some Pre-Premiere Sherlock Stuff (no direct spoilers)

I cannot stop rewinding this video of Study in Pink dubbed in different languages

I haven't learned all the 4-letter abbreviations for the canonical stories, but I endorse this movement to use 4-letter abbreviations for Sherlock episodes (SPOILERS for S2 titles, which are plot spoilers themselves). PINK, BANK, and GAME are quite clear regarding the S1 episodes. This scheme has the virtue of making at least the first acronym for S2 non-spoilery, on account of it doesn't map to anything known... in fact, probably makes no sense out of context.

I promise the spoilerphobes that I will be using these acronyms as I talk about the episodes, keeping *only* the acronym above the cut... but absolute spoilerphobes may want to use the "do not show me this tag" feature on my LJ on account of it's not my fault they put spoilers in the title and at least one will be REALLY obvious even reduced to 4 letters!
ext_3965: (BBC Sherlock - Funny Little Brains)

[identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com 2011-12-31 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
I don't understand people who get upset about being spoiled for episode titles on shows. That's just over the top, as far as I can see.

[identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com 2011-12-31 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Normally I'd agree, but in this case the titles - like "Dalek" and "They Just Keep Killing Suzie" - contain explicit plot spoilers. And I know there's at least one person on the flist who is avoiding plot spoilers like the plague, so I'm trying to give her the warning/tools she needs to not have her enjoyment spoiled by me, if not by Moffat & Gatiss.
ext_3965: (10 Can't Talk - Watching)

[identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com 2011-12-31 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Well you're going to know the spoiler as soon as you start watching and see the title anyway, so what difference does it make?

[identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com 2012-01-01 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
The difference between me being blamed for it and Moffat being blamed for it :)
ext_3965: (Benedict Cumberbatch)

[identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com 2012-01-01 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
Fine.

Of course, this doesn't take account of episode titles which are apparently spoilery but in fact are misdirections - cf The Doctor's Wife.

[identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com 2012-01-01 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
True, but but in the narrow case of Sherlock the show, it looks like there isn't any misdirection.

Having read some hige threads about sexism in a completely different online culturenover the last few days, I think I'm mostly trying to show where I'm drawing the line so that the person I'm thinking of knows what is or isn't a "safe space" by her standards. It's about spoilers rather than sexism, but safe spaces are at the top of my mind.

Also, to propogate what I think is a really cool nomenclature, one that seems to fit Sherlock back into the culture surrounding its source material.
ext_3965: (BBC Sherlock - Funny Little Brains)

[identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com 2012-01-01 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. It just seems a bit pointless getting upset about Sherlock spoilers, given how long the canon's been around - I mean, even a non-fan like *me* knows what a lot of the stories are called, and even what some of them are about.

[identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com 2012-01-01 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see it... TBH, I'm really nervous about something in tonight's episode, and had I not known about it in advance, I wouldn't have spent five days going "No, seriously? That's got to be wrong. That in No Way is..."

Not that I'm not expecting to squee madly when I see it. But there may be some bitching tonight.
ext_3965: (BBC Sherlock - Funny Little Brains)

[identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com 2012-01-01 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting. Since I've just finished watching it, I suspect I know what you're referring to and will zip my lip before I can say anything!

[identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com 2012-01-01 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll have plenty to say under a cut as soon as I've seen it, but I'm not letting myself watch it until I've finished the story for [livejournal.com profile] penfold_x.

Fortunately, I'm nearing the end!
ext_3965: (10 Can't Talk - Watching)

[identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com 2012-01-02 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
Well done!

[identity profile] dune-drd.livejournal.com 2011-12-31 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
Mwaw, no German in that trailer! Maybe it's better that way, once again they managed to completely dub away a great voice

[identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com 2011-12-31 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I like Lestrade's dubbed voice, but not Sherlock's!

(Also, I have no idea why I squeed at hearing "221B" in German, but I did. Possibly because it's the only part I actually understood.)

[identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com 2011-12-31 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
i totally approve of four-letter abbreviations for all canon spin-offs! mary russell fandom does it, so can sherlock! of course, i have no idea how one will be able to come up with a distinct four-letter abbreviation for two of the titles, since they're SO close to the originals, but i'm sure fandom will find a way.

also i approve of anything that will keep people from abbreviating a study in scarlet as ASiS. IT'S JUST WRONG, DAMMIT.

[identity profile] redpanda13.livejournal.com 2012-01-01 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
The standard abbreviation for the canonical A Study in Scarlet is STUD....

[identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com 2012-01-01 01:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you know of a source list for the canonical abbreviations, before I throw myself on the mercy of google?

[identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com 2012-01-01 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.hwslash.net/abbrev.html

any good annotated publication of canon should have a list of the abbreviations included in it as well.

[identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com 2012-01-01 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you. I've got the New Annotated Complete somewhere - the ones that are as big as phone books. (That was the greatest coup of my reviewing career, getting that entire set for free. Mind you, one of 'em's an ARC with no pictures...)

[identity profile] prof-pangaea.livejournal.com 2012-01-02 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
augh, i miss my annotated volumes SO MUCH they're still in storage in wisconsin. the les klinger AND the w.s. baring-gould! and i need them right now, as i find i'm actually writing fic again for the first time in forever!

[identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com 2012-01-01 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
The link compares 2 of the 3 new acronyms to canon, which I found really handy. I'm assuming that because Sherlock title 3 bears no words in common with the story title it comes from, there isn't going to be the possibility of overlap. I'm especially fond of what's been done with title 2, which would be the most problematic in regard to words in common.