Liveblogging The Dr. Who Finale

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ZOMG, it's not even the opening credits and I'm squeeing fit to knock bats out of the sky. *gives big squishy hugs to all the Doctors*

Strax likes boozing and beating up people Glasgow. I'm amused as heck, but at the same time, I wonder how many people are going to be yelling online that Moffat is racist against Scots.

This conference call fascinates me. Oh, hello, River, it's so... conflicting... to see you. I adore you, but your story's over.

Do these villains make anyone else think of Buffy and "Hush"? Although the poetry is going to be stuck in my head forever (right next to "Find the key that fits the door/that leads out to the dancing floor/then escape the dancing beat/or you'll forever tap your feet")

If Jenny stays permanently dead, I'm going to be furious! How can there be the Vashtra and Jenny show if Jenny's dead?

Wait, the Doctor knows how he's going to die? Bwa? Doesn't that make everything else that happens to him moot because his death is a fixed point in time?

Good. Strax was, after all, a nurse at one point.

The slaughterer of the 10 Billion? Well, point there. The Doctor has killed a hella lot of people.

Well, for all the people who were upset that River was left in the Library, she doesn't seem to upset about it. Or stuck in it, for that matter.

Valeyard? AAAAARRRRGH, now the old guard is going to be going on and on about how the new show has to be limited to the old plot points. Again.

What idiot at BBCA thought that airing an interview segment with a plot spoiler before it happened in the show was a good idea?

I so love Strax. Pretty please, can the actor come to ChicagoTARDIS?

So... River shows up to give away the name so that the name isn't given away? It seems a major waste of both her and the Big Eponymous Plot Point.

The Doctor's scar tissue in the Universe should be a LOT bigger. A WHOLE LOT bigger.

And the Whispers just... go? That's it? What a lame waste of a potentially interesting villain.

Why is Vashtra not reverting to anything?

So this is the secret behind Clara. I'm kind of "meh" about it, to be honest. I'd rather the reason she be scattered in time be a little less Mary Sue-ish.

Oh, heck. Look, I really like River Song, but I AM SO OVER THE DOCTOR BEING IN LOVE WITH COMPANIONS! It was a bad idea with Rose, and it was a worse idea to make River the new Rose in terms of boomeranging back and The One He Wuvs The Very Mostest Of Them All. (Even if Alex's smutty way of saying "Spoilers!" can still make me smile.)

Dafuq? That damned leaf. Should she also click her heels together and say "There's no place like home"?

OH, FUCKING VALEYARD! Why didn't that dumbass concept die back in the rest of old Sixie's failed era?

To be continued in November? FAIL!

What a waste of an interesting but ultimately not convincingly connected series of concepts.

Oh, buggery fuck. He's not the valeyard, the Internet tells me, he's Nine. Which is going to poison my looking back at my favorite Doctor, it really is. I get that Eccleston has only bad memories of the show, but why do such a clunky recast? You like a writing challenge, Moffat, work around it, don't screw it up!

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[redaxe.livejournal.com]

Didn't we see one of those villains as The Trickster (who claimed to be an enemy of The Doctor) in The Sarah Jane Adventures, several times? Or is that just a superficial resemblance? If it is, doesn't he have that send-someone-back-to-remake-a-choice power? Why not use that here, with one or more of The Doctor's team?

I see no reason not to accept the existence of and the direction toward the Valeyard. In fact, I've been thinking that's what Moffatt was aiming at for a while (and RTD before him), with the Doctor's darkness coming out.

Madame Vastra spin-off, pretty please with Strax on top?

[drakyndra.livejournal.com]

He's not Nine, Eleven flat out tells Clara that he is the Eleventh and we see a double in Nine's jacket in one of Clara's scenes.

If anything, he's either very late Eight, when the Time War has gone all to hell, though there's the unkillable theory that he's "technically" the ninth regeneration, coming between Eight and Nine, and scratched from the memory because the Doctor (From Nine on) hated what he became.

[ponygirl72.livejournal.com]

Regarding Hurt as Nine:

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My understanding is that Eccleston is now Ten, Tennant is Eleven, and Smith is Twelve. Though, judging by the in-episode explanation, we won't have to bother with new numbers. Hurt is That Gallifreyan Guy, Many of Whose Incarnations Call themselves "The Doctor", but he hasn't earned the title-- he's been internally disowned, so to speak.

If I had to speculate, I would guess that the Time Lords forced poor, gentle Eight to regenerate into something they could "work with" during the Time War. I'm laying odds on having some new McGann footage sometime before Nov. 24th.

::crosses fingers::

[nonelvis]

He's not the valeyard, the Internet tells me, he's Nine. Which is going to poison my looking back at my favorite Doctor, it really is. I get that Eccleston has only bad memories of the show, but why do such a clunky recast?

The internet has nothing but rumor to go on, and I really doubt Moffat would completely recast Nine. I don't think it's worth getting annoyed now about a plot point people are at least partially and maybe totally pulling out of their asses.

Same goes for the Valeyard, btw. It was nice to have so many Classic references in that episode, but whether Hurt is the Valeyard or not -- no one but Moffat and the people working on the show know the answer to that question. I doubt very much that the anniversary episode will center around any specific Classic Who canon, especially since Moffat's already said the episode is being made for a new generation of fans.

Really, I get why you'd be upset if this particular character came back, but I don't think we know enough about the anniversary to make any calls about its plot other than what's been publicly disclosed -- which is virtually nothing beyond casting.

[mondyboy.livejournal.com]

It's not a recast of Eccles.

[penguineggs.livejournal.com]

Strax likes boozing and beating up people Glasgow. I'm amused as heck, but at the same time, I wonder how many people are going to be yelling online that Moffat is racist against Scots.

With any luck, they'll include that appalling woman from Shakesville.