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Gardasil again
Step in the right direction - federal panel unanimously recommends girls aged 11-12 be vaccinated with Gardasil, with side comments that it should also be made available for females aged 9 - 26 at their or their parents (depending on age) permission.
This is one step closer to saving thousands of women from death by cancer. 4,000 preventable deaths per year in America alone.
And this is the reaction to such a pro-life position:
"If that [making the vaccine mandatory] happens, state officials, not parents, would become the primary sexual-health decision makers for America's children. That's the way things are done in dictatorships, not democracies," said Linda Klepacki of Focus on the Family.
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"This is not a communicable disease that would keep kids out of school like mumps or rubella," said Gerald Tirozzi, executive director of the National Assn. of Secondary School Principals, whose members include middle school and high school administrators. "To make this a condition to enter school — I think parents would become very upset, and many would see this as a signal to their daughters that they can become sexually active," Tirozzi said. "I think there would be a lot of push-back." It's only a communicable disease that could kill the girls. Slowly, painfully, expensively. That shouldn't bother the parents half as much as the idea of darling daughter ever parting her thighs.
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``You can't catch the virus, you have to go out and get it with sexual behavior,'' said Linda Klepacki of Focus on the Family, a conservative Christian nonprofit group that opposes efforts to mandate Gardasil vaccinations. ``We can prevent it by having the best public health method, and that's not having sex before marriage,'' Klepacki said. Best public health method? Care to stack that claim up against any other public health threats? Abstinence going to cure avian flu, lung cancer, heart disease, the common cold? No? How about ending rape, pedophilia, sexual abuse? Not that either? But don't worry, Ms. Klepacki, if any of the latter happen to a girl and she later dies of HPV-related cancer, you can add insult to injury by saying she went "out and get it."
This Klepacki seems to be a mine of mind-twisting quotes. I'd google her, but I have a feeling I'd end up needing a shower and lots of brain bleach.
The Guardian in England lays it out on the line in that refreshingly British way: Which is the greater evil, cervical cancer or sluttish behaviour? ... Because being vaccinated against a potentially deadly disease could make girls slutty. Seriously. ... [R]ead: "Only whores get cancer."
But after all that, a shining light of sanity and reason:
Two national health insurers, Aetna and WellPoint, the parent of Blue Cross of California, said they would follow the committee's recommendations and begin reimbursing for the vaccine immediately. HIP-HIP-HUZZAH FOR THEM!
This is one step closer to saving thousands of women from death by cancer. 4,000 preventable deaths per year in America alone.
And this is the reaction to such a pro-life position:
"If that [making the vaccine mandatory] happens, state officials, not parents, would become the primary sexual-health decision makers for America's children. That's the way things are done in dictatorships, not democracies," said Linda Klepacki of Focus on the Family.
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"This is not a communicable disease that would keep kids out of school like mumps or rubella," said Gerald Tirozzi, executive director of the National Assn. of Secondary School Principals, whose members include middle school and high school administrators. "To make this a condition to enter school — I think parents would become very upset, and many would see this as a signal to their daughters that they can become sexually active," Tirozzi said. "I think there would be a lot of push-back." It's only a communicable disease that could kill the girls. Slowly, painfully, expensively. That shouldn't bother the parents half as much as the idea of darling daughter ever parting her thighs.
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``You can't catch the virus, you have to go out and get it with sexual behavior,'' said Linda Klepacki of Focus on the Family, a conservative Christian nonprofit group that opposes efforts to mandate Gardasil vaccinations. ``We can prevent it by having the best public health method, and that's not having sex before marriage,'' Klepacki said. Best public health method? Care to stack that claim up against any other public health threats? Abstinence going to cure avian flu, lung cancer, heart disease, the common cold? No? How about ending rape, pedophilia, sexual abuse? Not that either? But don't worry, Ms. Klepacki, if any of the latter happen to a girl and she later dies of HPV-related cancer, you can add insult to injury by saying she went "out and get it."
This Klepacki seems to be a mine of mind-twisting quotes. I'd google her, but I have a feeling I'd end up needing a shower and lots of brain bleach.
The Guardian in England lays it out on the line in that refreshingly British way: Which is the greater evil, cervical cancer or sluttish behaviour? ... Because being vaccinated against a potentially deadly disease could make girls slutty. Seriously. ... [R]ead: "Only whores get cancer."
But after all that, a shining light of sanity and reason:
Two national health insurers, Aetna and WellPoint, the parent of Blue Cross of California, said they would follow the committee's recommendations and begin reimbursing for the vaccine immediately. HIP-HIP-HUZZAH FOR THEM!
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And if he does, well, it's her fault and her responsibility for bringing him back and bearing anything that comes back with him as a judgement.
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I just finished a biographic interview in NM with a single mother of two whose family and community blame her for her husband's infedelity, abusive behavior, and meth addiction.
Granted, a different cultural mindset from very traditional Spanish families with ties to their lands of over 400 yrs.... but daaaaamn?? Did they miss the whole feminist movement...and post feminist movement..and err just being effing humane thing?
-=Jeff=-
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Oh, & let's not forget all those babies that the anti-choicers
insist are more important than women; they're a punishment, too.
To think that any foul, loathesome, evil little cockroach would
actually have the nerve to turn my hildren (for example) into a
punishment. And these creeps wonder why I hate them so much.
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More needs to be made of the correlation between states with lack of access to birth control and abortion and states with high rates of infant mortality, child poverty, and women's poverty. Anyone shocked to hear that it's almost 1=1?
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My daughter will have hysterics.
If only I could get my pediatrician to give me one
that day, too, so it's fair...
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Focus on the Family is a batch of loonies. The one you quote seems to be the one in charge of putting wingnuttery into words. *ugh*
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I ADORE your Total Sarcasm Mode. I wish those what needed to hear this would understand that what you're saying is that they are crazed, misogynistic and wrong rather than insistently misunderstanding and saying, "YES! Exactly!"
I grew up with people whose primary concern was about sexual behavior...but with very little emphasis on how to prevent sexual assault. I found out that Yet Another of my students (14) has already been assaulted...and that makes half a dozen or more that I know of. It's getting to a point where I'm wondering if there are any who HAVEN'T...and I cannot understand why EVERYONE does not see this as the epidemic that it is and why they're not horrified and working to teach folks how NOT to hurt one another and...SUCh a mess.
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Sometimes, if you phrase it right, you get the utter pleasure of a response of "YES! Exa... no, wait."
I figure that when the bullshit stinks so much that people on the other side of the Atlantic are bluntly saying "So, only whores get cancer?" you know that the house of cards is starting to shake.
I grew up with people whose primary concern was about sexual behavior...but with very little emphasis on how to prevent sexual assault.
Natch. You have to talk about sex to discuss sexual assault. And proactiveness on the part of women. So much easier to just call her a teasing whore and kick it all back under the rug, like it was in the good old days when we were chattel like God wanted us to be!
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& not because they are for women's rights. They know that
an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure - & they
don't want to be sued by some woman who gets cancer
because *they* wouldn't pay for the vaccine....
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I just REALLY want to be around in another 40 years or so when a woman with cervical cancer sues her parents for forbidding her the vaccine.
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On the other hand, that assumes that 1) she believes it works (which I doubt considering the lies surrounding all abstinence education), 2) she is still virgin, 3) she can afford the series of shots on her own... and since it's about the same cost as an abortion...
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Of course - I was just trying to say that they don't really deserve praise for it.
"I just REALLY want to be around in another 40 years or so when a woman with cervical cancer sues her parents for forbidding her the vaccine. "
G-d forbid it should get that far.
If only we could get the right wigners on racketeering charges....
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH
Oh by the way ... suppressing a vaccine because of your own sexual puritanism is something done in THEOCRACIES. Also, HPV is not exclusively sexually transmitted; you don't have to have sex to get it, though that's one way to contract it. It's transmitted through the skin, so you could be "following the Lord's will" and still end up needing a hysterectomy because Ms. Klepacki thinks sex it icky and boys have cooties.
Ms. Klepacki needs to be knocked out with a 3' dildo and shipped to Madagascar in a box marked "free hooker" in Malagasy.
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I genuflect in your general direction & will be shamelessly stealing this when the subject comes up on line.
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I also wonder how this will be a 'green light for sluttery' when HIV, gonorrhea, etc, are still out stalking our land like two ... giant stalking things.
(Two points if you get the reference.)
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What do you take me for - someone who couldn't recognize a subtle
plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a
piano, singing "Subtle plans are here again!" ?
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I figured since you genuflected 'in my general direction' there was a good chance you'd get it :).
One of my favorites is from the Fourth:
[The telephone rings, Blackadder picks it up.]
Edmund: Hello, the Savoy Grill. Oh, it's you..... yes..... yes, I'll be over in 40 minutes.
Baldrick: Who was it then sir?
Edmund: Strangely enough Baldrick, it was Pope Gregory IX, inviting me for drinks aboard his steam-yacht "The Saucy Sue", currently wintering in Montego Bay with the England Cricket team and the Balinese goddess of plenty.
Baldrick: Really?
Edmund: No, not really. I'm ordered to HQ. No doubt that idiot General Melchett is about to offer me some attractive new opportunities to have my brains blown out for Britain.
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Go back a few weeks, to the Skepchik article I linked to titled "I'm Against Fire Extinguishers" which uses all the same arguments against safety equipment. It's nasty and brilliant.
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Not only this, but I would wager that most kids don't even know that the virus can cause cancer, so getting the vaccine wouldn't be any sort of deterrent lifted! I mean, I'm 19 and consider myself pretty knowledgeable about sexual health, but seriously, I had NO idea about the connection between an STD and cervical cancer until I read the first article about the vaccine. I have no clue how it escaped me for so long - I didn't even have abstinence-only sex ed - but there you go.
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Neither did I, and we had what was, in retrospect, really good sex ed in school. I'm not entirely sure that the connection had been announced/discovered until all that recently.
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Her doctor was very blunt about knowing exactly what it was and how it spread and what it did. And for ten years before that - just to my knowledge, it may be longer - sexual history has been an evaluative factor in cancer risk for women.