neadods: (freedomfromreligion)
neadods ([personal profile] neadods) wrote2006-06-30 10:37 am

Gardasil again

Step in the right direction - federal panel unanimously recommends girls aged 11-12 be vaccinated with Gardasil, with side comments that it should also be made available for females aged 9 - 26 at their or their parents (depending on age) permission.

This is one step closer to saving thousands of women from death by cancer. 4,000 preventable deaths per year in America alone.

And this is the reaction to such a pro-life position:

"If that [making the vaccine mandatory] happens, state officials, not parents, would become the primary sexual-health decision makers for America's children. That's the way things are done in dictatorships, not democracies," said Linda Klepacki of Focus on the Family.
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"This is not a communicable disease that would keep kids out of school like mumps or rubella," said Gerald Tirozzi, executive director of the National Assn. of Secondary School Principals, whose members include middle school and high school administrators. "To make this a condition to enter school — I think parents would become very upset, and many would see this as a signal to their daughters that they can become sexually active," Tirozzi said. "I think there would be a lot of push-back." It's only a communicable disease that could kill the girls. Slowly, painfully, expensively. That shouldn't bother the parents half as much as the idea of darling daughter ever parting her thighs.
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``You can't catch the virus, you have to go out and get it with sexual behavior,'' said Linda Klepacki of Focus on the Family, a conservative Christian nonprofit group that opposes efforts to mandate Gardasil vaccinations. ``We can prevent it by having the best public health method, and that's not having sex before marriage,'' Klepacki said. Best public health method? Care to stack that claim up against any other public health threats? Abstinence going to cure avian flu, lung cancer, heart disease, the common cold? No? How about ending rape, pedophilia, sexual abuse? Not that either? But don't worry, Ms. Klepacki, if any of the latter happen to a girl and she later dies of HPV-related cancer, you can add insult to injury by saying she went "out and get it."

This Klepacki seems to be a mine of mind-twisting quotes. I'd google her, but I have a feeling I'd end up needing a shower and lots of brain bleach.

The Guardian in England lays it out on the line in that refreshingly British way: Which is the greater evil, cervical cancer or sluttish behaviour? ... Because being vaccinated against a potentially deadly disease could make girls slutty. Seriously. ... [R]ead: "Only whores get cancer."

But after all that, a shining light of sanity and reason:
Two national health insurers, Aetna and WellPoint, the parent of Blue Cross of California, said they would follow the committee's recommendations and begin reimbursing for the vaccine immediately. HIP-HIP-HUZZAH FOR THEM!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH

[identity profile] nemo-wistar.livejournal.com 2006-07-01 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Why the hell do we have seat belts? That's only giving drivers the wrong message that it's okay to get in an accident. It will encourage BAD DRIVING!! Accidents don't happen when you sit at home in your house, watching TV. You have to GO OUT AND GET IN ONE. Besides, making the state government require that we wear them is only shifting the responsibility of accident prevention to them, and not to the potential driver.

Oh by the way ... suppressing a vaccine because of your own sexual puritanism is something done in THEOCRACIES. Also, HPV is not exclusively sexually transmitted; you don't have to have sex to get it, though that's one way to contract it. It's transmitted through the skin, so you could be "following the Lord's will" and still end up needing a hysterectomy because Ms. Klepacki thinks sex it icky and boys have cooties.

Ms. Klepacki needs to be knocked out with a 3' dildo and shipped to Madagascar in a box marked "free hooker" in Malagasy.

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[identity profile] flaviarassen.livejournal.com 2006-07-01 01:55 am (UTC)(link)

Why the hell do we have seat belts? That's only giving drivers the wrong message that it's okay to get in an accident. It will encourage BAD DRIVING!! Accidents don't happen when you sit at home in your house, watching TV. You have to GO OUT AND GET IN ONE. Besides, making the state government require that we wear them is only shifting the responsibility of accident prevention to them, and not to the potential driver.


I genuflect in your general direction & will be shamelessly stealing this when the subject comes up on line.

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[identity profile] nemo-wistar.livejournal.com 2006-07-01 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks :). Though the specific wording is mine, the analogy is relatively popular.

I also wonder how this will be a 'green light for sluttery' when HIV, gonorrhea, etc, are still out stalking our land like two ... giant stalking things.

(Two points if you get the reference.)

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[identity profile] flaviarassen.livejournal.com 2006-07-02 12:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Not recognize the reference?
What do you take me for - someone who couldn't recognize a subtle
plan if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a
piano, singing "Subtle plans are here again!" ?

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[identity profile] nemo-wistar.livejournal.com 2006-07-02 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Two points!

I figured since you genuflected 'in my general direction' there was a good chance you'd get it :).

One of my favorites is from the Fourth:

[The telephone rings, Blackadder picks it up.]

Edmund: Hello, the Savoy Grill. Oh, it's you..... yes..... yes, I'll be over in 40 minutes.

Baldrick: Who was it then sir?

Edmund: Strangely enough Baldrick, it was Pope Gregory IX, inviting me for drinks aboard his steam-yacht "The Saucy Sue", currently wintering in Montego Bay with the England Cricket team and the Balinese goddess of plenty.

Baldrick: Really?

Edmund: No, not really. I'm ordered to HQ. No doubt that idiot General Melchett is about to offer me some attractive new opportunities to have my brains blown out for Britain.

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[identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com 2006-07-01 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Why the hell do we have seat belts? That's only giving drivers the wrong message that it's okay to get in an accident. It will encourage BAD DRIVING!! Accidents don't happen when you sit at home in your house, watching TV. You have to GO OUT AND GET IN ONE.

Go back a few weeks, to the Skepchik article I linked to titled "I'm Against Fire Extinguishers" which uses all the same arguments against safety equipment. It's nasty and brilliant.