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Today is one of those days where I want to resign from the human race. Virginia has elected someone I seriously think they're going to regret. Maine has shamefully voted down basic human rights... and in a pretty unConstitutional manner to boot. (Find me someone arguing gay marriage who isn't citing their religion, and I'll show you... well, a void, because I sure don't know of any. First Amendment, people! You know, the part where we DON'T let religion make our laws?)

And closer to home, I hear James Moran has once again "entertained" his audience with onscreen child snuff. James Moran is permanently on my personal "I'll gouge my eyes out before I spend one minute or one dollar on his work" list.

Date: 2009-11-05 12:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
"Virginia has elected someone I seriously think they're going to regret."

Re that, you think the Democrats will ever learn that when they run an in-everything-but-name Republican versus a self-declared Republican that actual Democrats stay home in disgust and thus the self-declared Republican wins? What am I saying, it's been decades now and they still don't get it.

"Maine has shamefully voted down basic human rights."

Judging by some of the exit polling, OMG NOW THEY WILL TEACH MAH POOR DEFENSELESS CHILDRUN HOW TO BE GHEY IN THE SCHOOLS AND THEN THEY WILL KNOW THAT THERE IS GHEYNESS!!! was the most effective bit of scaremongering. Considering I know actual five-year-olds who seem far better informed and adjusted on this issue than the coddled, parochial idiots in their parents' generation, it's especially ironic.

"And closer to home, I hear James Moran has once again 'entertained' his audience with onscreen child snuff."

You're just intimidated by how EDGY and ADULT it all is. /eyeroll

Date: 2009-11-05 01:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzai55.livejournal.com
Maine's bright side - the legislature already says they pass the law again. And as close as it was this time? It won't get overturned again. Just have to wait another year. (Fingers crossed)

Date: 2009-11-05 01:21 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] brewsternorth.livejournal.com
Re: Girl Number Nine? Thanks for the warning. Having been pestered about it on Twitter, I was all "don't know if want...". It didn't sound altogether like my sort of thing, so I'm glad to have been spared the OMG MY EYES of it through not having gotten round to seeing it.

Date: 2009-11-05 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Re that, you think the Democrats will ever learn that when they run an in-everything-but-name Republican versus a self-declared Republican that actual Democrats stay home in disgust and thus the self-declared Republican wins?

Re that apparently much of his voting record is in line with that reactionary college thesis, and saying "I love women! I support women!" doesn't mean dick when the people protesting outside the clinic are saying the exact same things about loving and supporting... but not letting the little darlin's make up their own minds about their own bodies.

I know actual five-year-olds who seem far better informed and adjusted on this issue

I know actual five-year-olds who can be way more mature about people different than them.

You're just intimidated by how EDGY and ADULT it all is

If I'm going to be watching "adult entertainment," I'm gonna watch something that gets me off, not something that gets kids offed.

Date: 2009-11-05 02:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
the legislature already says they pass the law again

GOOD!

But I'm not sure I'd be that sure that it won't get overturned again - the frenzy over it isn't going to die away.

In the meantime, what happens to the marriages that already happened?

Date: 2009-11-05 02:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Re: Girl Number Nine?

Yeah. I heard it secondhand, but I can't say I'm surprised, not after the "if you don't like my edgy brilliance you're defective" defense that was waved after CoE.

Well, it saves me time and money, because I'll know better than to waste either one on anything with Moran's name on it from now on.

Date: 2009-11-05 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
"If I'm going to be watching 'adult entertainment,' I'm gonna watch something that gets me off, not something that gets kids offed."

Tough-talking cops pursuing a sadistic serial killer who targets women/girls is the most original idea ever, I sure wish I'd thought of it.

Date: 2009-11-05 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Yeah, I've never come across such a plot in all my years reading/reviewing mysteries. Obviously the work of an inventive genius.

Date: 2009-11-05 03:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gonzai55.livejournal.com
There weren't any. The anti-equality jerks petitioned the law to referendum after the law was passed, but before it went into effect. (There's usually 2-6 months between passing a law and putting it into action.)

Date: 2009-11-05 03:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jigglykat.livejournal.com
Hilariously (okay, not so much), they screened the most recent SJA at Hurricane Who, followed by Girl Number Nine. Poor naive me thought that Girl Number Nine was actually NEXT week's episode of SJA as well, so imagine my surprise when within the first five seconds, they were dropping f-bombs.

Me: ...WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU, SJA?!

I am fail. But SJA most definitely was NOT.

Date: 2009-11-05 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flaviarassen.livejournal.com
I'm almost afraid to ask what he did - maybe you
could tell me what show it is we have to avoid?

Date: 2009-11-05 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tacnukesoul.livejournal.com
Two things:

As to Maine and marriage in general, I'll defer to Andrew Sullivan (http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/11/a-beginning-not-an-end.html) for the slightly more positive big picture.

Second, your starting out on politics and starting the paragraph "closer to home" made my brain hurt as I tried to figure out how Jim Moran (D-Va 8th District) came to be involved with child snuff films.

Date: 2009-11-05 09:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mondyboy.livejournal.com
In regard to James Moran, I think it should be pointed out that RTD planned and wrote the episode in question. And considering how notorious RTD is for re-writing whole scripts, I doubt much of what is actually credited to Mran in Torchwood is his work. (We get a feeling of this in a Writers Tale where Moran's story was mostly re-written by RTD).

The point I'm trying to make is that I don't think Moran can be blamed for the child snuff that featured in Torchwood. It'd be like blaming... I don't know.. Paul Corell for how Martha is treated at the end of the season. Both Cornell and Moran might defend the 'season' they wrote for and the writer/s they worked with, but neither of them wrote the 'offending' episodes.

That said, I have no idea what Moran's recent entertainment was.

Date: 2009-11-05 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fabricdragon.livejournal.com
Virginia is reacting to the same issues NJ is...... namely that they dont like whats going on in Washington (well.... who EVER likes it?) so the vote swung away from the Presidents choice.

laws have often, maybe even usually, been voted for on conscience issues. and often conscience issues are formed by, or informed by, religion... why is that so hard to follow?
i happen to think that the whole idea of "gay marriage" is a moot point (as i have said in my own blog) as i dont think the govt/civil law has any business being involved in religion.... so therefore why should my religious marriage have any bearing on my taxes?

i think ALL couples should have to file for "civil partnerships" under CIVIL law, since the govt shouldnt recognize or be involved with my religious marriage.

mind you i know i am in the minority there....

Date: 2009-11-06 01:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
It's a web show called Girl Number 9. It's a standard "hardboiled cop after a serial killer" story from what I can tell.

Date: 2009-11-06 01:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
naive me thought that Girl Number Nine was actually NEXT week's episode of SJA

O.O

Well, Lis wanted to do Torchwood...

SJA rocks like a geology class in a quarry.

Date: 2009-11-06 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I tried to figure out how Jim Moran (D-Va 8th District) came to be involved with child snuff films.

I confess, I do not lay that sin at his door! It's just that fandom is in my home, while the antics of Virginia's politicians don't affect me that much.

Date: 2009-11-06 01:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I think it should be pointed out that RTD planned and wrote the episode in question

I know - and to be blunt, he's also on my shitlist. I'll see Who out, but I have no intention of following anything he does outside the Whoniverse now.


I doubt much of what is actually credited to Mran in Torchwood is his work

Moran took public credit on his blog and I think on Twitter for being part of the group plotting the overall plot of CoE and saying he supported it all the way. And now that his web-only show has repeated *the* single thing that upset me most about CoE, whether it was his original idea or if he stole it from RTD because he liked it, it still means that he considers torturing small children to death onscreen is dramatically laudable.

I will not be party to that. I won't even lend the dubious support of silence.

Date: 2009-11-06 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
laws have often, maybe even usually, been voted for on conscience issues. and often conscience issues are formed by, or informed by, religion... why is that so hard to follow?

Because the First Amendment promises freedom of religion and you cannot be free to follow your own conscience when the dictates of someone else's religion are legally imposed upon you.

I'm fine with the civil partnerships part - I think it would unravel several knots in one fell swoop.

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