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I'm so ashamed of North Carolina today. And so worried my own state will tip towards bigotry in November.

How afraid, how hateful do you have to be to outlaw something twice over? Oh, wait don't tell me; I already see is in Arizona where they're rewriting the tax code to make sure that even no public funds don't fund abortion already, private funds and private policies will be barred or punished.

Date: 2012-05-09 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forked.livejournal.com
I'm in Greensboro and so very ashamed to admit that at the moment. I really didn't believe it would pass, despite the polls leaning that way. It's just so clearly mean spirited and hateful and I don't see how you can spin that any other way. And now every time I see it come up on the news channels I want to vomit. Bleh.

And wanted to say- I'm grabbing that book today- thanks so much for the code. Yesterday was nuts so hadn't had the chance yet. And then I was just sad last night when I finally got in and didn't feel like mucking with the computer. Sigh.

Date: 2012-05-09 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Mean spirited and, despite the vote, illegal. Is there an argument against it that isn't religiously motivated? Because we've got this Amendment that's supposed to prevent a group, even a majority, to prevent the free exercise of the beliefs of the minority.

Date: 2012-05-10 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redpanda13.livejournal.com
It's more than free exercise of beliefs.

14th Amendment, article 1:

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

That seems to sum it up pretty clearly to me: denying equal protection of marriage laws to any citizen is unconstitutional for any state. All we need is a Supreme Court majority that can read the Constitution and someone to bring them the case.

Date: 2012-05-11 02:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
denying equal protection of marriage laws to any citizen is unconstitutional for any state. All we need is a Supreme Court majority that can read the Constitution and someone to bring them the case

IIRC, the Proposition 8 California case (with attendant "it is against the 14th Amendment" argument) *is* headed to the Supreme court.

In the meantime, ol' Etch-a-sketch is insisting that the youthful "pranks" he can't remember were just assault and battery, but not gay bashing.

Date: 2012-05-11 03:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redpanda13.livejournal.com
Gay bashing or not, knocking someone down and forcibly cutting their hair because "he shouldn't wear it like that" is the act of a dangerous jerk. He claims to have grown up since then, but I wonder.

Date: 2012-05-11 09:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
His dog doubtless has an opinion on the subject.

Not to mention that Etch a Sketch didn't do it alone. He led a mob to do it. They remember and regret; why doesn't he do either?
Edited Date: 2012-05-11 09:57 am (UTC)

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