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I'm seeing a lot of celebration on the news that there's a Senate deal that's going to fix the mess this country's in. First of all, it's a no-deal until the House blesses it... not that Boehner's got a lot of alternatives, considering that this is the second time he's tried to grandstand with a Republican alternative at the nth second and gotten cut off at the knees by the Tea Party.

Second and far more importantly, look at what the Senate's proposing. Reopening the Government until mid-January. Raising the debt ceiling until mid-Feb. This isn't fixing anything, it's not even deciding anything - it's just kicking the can down the road a few more months.

Nor, even if this does pass and the Government reopens Friday, do the repercussions in my life magically go away. Government open or not, because I used up all my leave, I'm going to have to take the upcoming federal holiday Veteran's Day as yet another day without pay (see previous post about contractor holidays =/= Government holidays.) And because I'm in the hole for leave *and* not earning any back with every day without pay that I take, I'm probably not going to have anything earned back by ChicagoTARDIS, meaning *that* will be without pay, with all the ramifications of that.

And boy howdy, is that going to impact Christmas. Do you think I'd even consider lavish spending on presents under these conditions, with pay lost and a potential repeat of this nonsense right when the bills come due? No one with brain cells would go on a spending spree.

Date: 2013-10-17 12:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
The debt ceiling only gets pushed back too, and I've just seen someone saying that she's totally not a member of the tea party, but she just can't vote for this Senate bill because it doesn't shut down Obamacare and that's the most important thing her constitutents want.

We're going to go through the Exact. Same. Thing. in three months' time.

(And I'm sorry about your shoulder. I hope it heals quickly.)
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Date: 2013-10-17 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
"Will come"? We're there.

I always knew there would come a time the US would stop being a superpower. I didn't realize it would come in my lifetime, or that it would be the result of deliberate destruction from within.
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Date: 2013-10-17 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redpanda13.livejournal.com
I don't know.... I was pondering which country I'd like to be the only superpower, and it's a bit of a tossup between Denmark and New Zealand. Except Denmark has had some nasty anti-immigrant activity in recent years, and I'm not sure how the Maoris are treated in NZ. Canadians tend to be calm and polite, but their environmental policy has gone down the bunghole. As to our having "more freedom than any other country," that would take some research on my part.

What a lot of Americans don't have is freedom to vote for a candidate of their choice. Way too many districts are gerrymandered into safe seats-- and I'm not excusing Maryland; I voted against that map but it passed.
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Date: 2013-10-17 02:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redpanda13.livejournal.com
I agree on that last part, but they don't have the freedom to vote for a candidate of their choice if the district is so rigged to benefit one party that the other party doesn't even bother wasting money putting up a candidate, and the race is uncontested. There are far too many of those. One would be too many.

Date: 2013-10-17 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I'm with RedPanda we theoretically have the freedom to vote for who we want, but between deliberate disinformation being spread as news, gerrymandering, and voter restriction we don't actually have the power to vote in who we want. Especially if it's close. The court told us who won Bush v Gore, not an accurate count of the popular vote

That ain't no freedom of the polls.

Date: 2013-10-17 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zinelady.livejournal.com
I vote New Zealand myself. I really wish I wasn't leaving here to come back to the US. I love my kids and I'm sure I'll love my grandkids, but I really like living in New Zealand.

Date: 2013-10-22 08:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starcat-jewel.livejournal.com
we still have more freedom than any other country

I take issue with this statement. Can you really name any freedom we have that other first-world countries don't beyond the freedom to be killed by any lunatic who decides he's tired of living with "libtards and socialists"?

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Date: 2013-10-23 02:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starcat-jewel.livejournal.com
I said freedoms that other First World countries DON'T have. So far the only one you've come up with that fits is (as I expected) the right to have your own personal fucking arsenal until you become a headline-news story. Paying taxes is not an infringement on your freedom; taxes are what PAY FOR your freedom.

Oh, and don't forget, the Republicans are working on taking away your right to vote, your freedom of speech, and if you're female, gay, non-white, or non-Christian, pretty much all of your rights, period.
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Date: 2013-10-23 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
It is time to point out that the person who runs this blog is a New Deal Democrat who is aware that the money "taken away from taxpayers" in Canada, England, Netherlands, Denmark, France, etc., pays for a variety of services that we don't have access to in America, like national health care.

Instead, we're free to pay more out of pocket to receive fewer, more expensive services than anyone with single-payer service, and equally free to go bankrupt from medical bills even with medical insurance.

I might easily have been one of them, or dead, if I had not had the sheer dumb luck to work for the company I did -- whose owner was not interested in preserving her religious freedom to limit my health insurance when I needed emergency surgery a few years ago.

We go broker when we mop up after disasters because it's more important to prove that the Government can't support an infrastructure than to maintain it, and broker faster when we're all paying to fix the result of inevitable, foreseeable disasters like letting businesses store fertilizer in uninspected plants next to schools and hospitals.

And finally, if you read a few posts past this, you will see the post where I put a value, down to the penny, on the amount of money taken away from me -- not for taxes, from which I get a benefit, but by someone with the back asswards notion that stopping my paycheck won't make me a damnsight more broke a hell of a lot faster than raising taxes!

We are not discussing the lesser of two evils. We are discussing the price of doing business in a functioning nation vs the price of being an unwilling victim of an ideological play for power and donations.

Date: 2013-10-17 01:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redpanda13.livejournal.com
The only hopeful note about that is that the closer this garbage gets to the next election, the more people are likely to remember who caused it... unless they just quit voting for anybody, and we're left with just the fanatics who vote.

Date: 2013-10-17 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I worry bigtime about that.

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