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If you read [livejournal.com profile] doyle_sb4 you've already seen much of this, but I'm collecting it for those who haven't and so I can find it later. (The "finding it later" is mostly my reason for being a one-woman Daily Who and Torchwood Three this morning.)

Big Finish is having a contest "open to anyone, of any age, who has never had a work of fiction published that they've been paid for." 2,500 words on "How the Doctor Changed My Life," meaning the life of a fictional/historical character. The winner "will work with an editor to get their story to publishable standard. [Note to post-print-era fanficcers: This means they will tell you to change things. Deal.] They will receive the standard author's contract - and rates of pay - for their story, which will be published in one of the Big Finish Short Trips anthologies in 2007." Links to previous stories are provided.

Hmmmm... although other things currently in the pipeline take precedence; I need to see how they end up first.

Also from Doyle, a link to [livejournal.com profile] crepe_suzettes' essay on Torchwood. I'm not familiar with "Dad's Army, but I do think she nails it dead to rights with They are misfits and incompetents, and the reason they're Torchwood at all is that the proper Torchwood - one with the large staff and the glitzy office and the proper grasp of security procedures was so consumed by its own arrogance and self-importance that it not merely destroyed itself, but almost the entire world along with it... But no-one will destroy Torchwood Three - as they destroyed Torchwood One - by lining them up and ordering them to march into the conversion machine. When the aliens invade Cardiff and they try to round up Torchwood Three, two of them will be off at the back bonking, one will have slipped out for an illicit ciggie, another will be trying out some useful alien technology on the cat (and later, therefore, return to the fray assisted by one alien-enhanced and Bloody Furious cat) and the last one will have phoned in sick so she can go to the rugby.

You don't defeat the best swordsman in the world by sending in the second-best. You defeat them by sending in the worst swordsman in the world.


Again, hmmmm. Also: BWAhahahaha!

There's a PDF of the knitting pattern for Rose's fingerless mitts at: this site found thanks to [livejournal.com profile] alabama_e that I will have to print out at work because ever since I "upgraded" to IE7, it crashes whenever I try to open a .pdf, even after I downloaded the new reader, and even if the reader is already running. Better version, my ass!

Y'all *do* know about the BBC Doctor Who advent calendar by now, don't you? Previous days still active.

And finally, *points happily to new icon swiped yesterday, courtesy [livejournal.com profile] gordon_r_d* Rose was a fantastic companion, but so far there's only been one assistant who was woman enough to work with three different doctors in two time periods and hold down a sequel of her own. Sarah Jane is rapidly retconning into my favorite companion EVER (sorry, Leela!)

On the personal side of things, I have finally uploaded all of my favorite Christmas music to iTunes and gotten a mix I'm happy with. It's 10 hours long. *blink* Will be burning to CDs this weekend for use in car; 10 hours of ipod earphones make my ears hurt.

Oh, crap, late for work!

Date: 2006-12-08 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-morris.livejournal.com
You know, I got to thinking the other night. *Do* the other Torchwoods know of #3? Is #3 really affiliated with *The* Torchwood?

Whose word are you taking for it? Jack's?

JSM

Date: 2006-12-08 01:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
Well, Ianto knew of it when he was working with Torchwood #1 since he was able to head there with Lisa.

Date: 2006-12-08 05:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-morris.livejournal.com
Well...there's no really knowing that this is *the* Torchwood #3 that Ianto knew of. For all we know Jack's set this up as the perfect front while he tries to figure out what Rose and the Doctor have done to him (and boy that sounds incredibly kinky but strangely in context with the show, doesn't it?).

I know, I know, it's all silly speculation. Blame it on seeing "The Sting" awhile back.

JSM

Date: 2006-12-08 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
The fact that they're numbered suggests to me that there is someone keeping the chapters separate. Torchwood One is quite obviously the only one that took itself seriously, I'm guessing to the point of stinting money and resources to the others. T3's mandate was quite likely "grab anything from the rift, give it straight to T1, and don't leave mud on the carpet when you do, yocal."

Date: 2006-12-08 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redstarrobot.livejournal.com
Given that Jack's the one left telling off the Prime Minister for making the organization too public, it seems at least Jack has some standing in the real Torchwood.

Um. Unless this the most elaborate con he's ever, ever pulled. But employing Ianto probably rules out the other Torchwoods not knowing about them.

Date: 2006-12-08 01:21 pm (UTC)
ext_7885: Photo of Bitch,please Scarlet O'Hara (DW - Anyone can save the world - sarah53)
From: [identity profile] scarlettgirl.livejournal.com
Good luck with the pattern. I haven't been able to upload it myself even after numerous tries. I really wanted to give it a go, I have a lovely plum colored cashmere that's not enough to do much with.


And your icon is WIN!

Date: 2006-12-08 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Wait, you can't get to it at all? Because I just saved it off, but it's charted and made for dpns, which I know crap about. Also needs to be printed in color. (Which means I'm probably going to print it, stick it in the "fandom knitting" part of the folder, and never do anything with it again.

Need screen caps? I think I could upload screencaps this weekend, when I've got access to photoshop.

Date: 2006-12-08 01:58 pm (UTC)
ext_7885: Photo of Bitch,please Scarlet O'Hara (gen - knitting love - eyesthatslay)
From: [identity profile] scarlettgirl.livejournal.com
I'm going to try to upload it on the desktop later but if that doesn't work, I'll let you know. Charted huh? I just started working with charts and, to be honest, once you get over the initial discomfort and learning curve it's really nicer.

Date: 2006-12-08 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelseagirl.livejournal.com
Thanks for pointing out that Torchwood post. M. and I have got the point with Torchwood that we've decided it's a show about some not-so-very-bright people who take turns compensating for each other's screw ups. The "worst swordsman in the world" theory cheers me up somehow.

And love the Sarah Jane icon. Nine and Ten may have displaced Four in my heart, but Sarah Jane's still my favorite companion. (Oooh, I was going to email you about borrowing the Sarah Jane Adventures, wasn't I? It's been that kind of a semester.)

Date: 2006-12-08 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
The "worst swordsman in the world" theory cheers me up somehow

It cheers me up immensely, turning a bug into a feature, basically.

I was going to email you about borrowing the Sarah Jane Adventures, wasn't I?

Dagnabbit, I only ever remember that when I can't do anything about it. Hit up personal email, will you, with your address? (this screenname @ aol.) I'll package 'em up and send 'em on Monday.

Date: 2006-12-08 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redstarrobot.livejournal.com
It is cheering, as is the thought that if you let Jack, hardly the world's best manager, recruit, what do you expect? It's surprising he managed to get two or three as devoted to the job as they were. (Although it's a teeny bit worrying that Jack's recruiting style seems to also include "If they're over 26, they're too old for my... purposes".)

Date: 2006-12-08 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Jack's recruiting style seems to also include "If they're over 26, they're too old for my... purposes"

I'm starting to think that's RTD's recruiting style.

Date: 2006-12-08 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redstarrobot.livejournal.com
Well, yes. But trying to make sense of it in context is creee-py. :)

(Somewhere I read an analysis of New Who that said, handful of visible exceptions included, it was not a universe that was kind to or valued age. That makes slightly less sense in Torchwood than it did in Doctor "kids show" Who, and I find it more glaring.)

Date: 2006-12-08 03:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I read an analysis of New Who that said, handful of visible exceptions included, it was not a universe that was kind to or valued age.

And yet those exceptions are very visible, and they keep recurring. Furthermore, they're usually the *most* invisible and undervalued demographic, older women. Usually if there's a codger somewhere in this entire ageist society, it's the wise male teacher. If there's an older woman, she's always the wise mother or (after a certain age) the granny with a heart of gold.

In new Who/Torchwood, we get Harriet (who survives the alien attack and makes it to Prime Minister *and* ushers in a new Golden Age before the Doctor gets his knickers in a knot), Mrs. Moore who was quite obviously the brains of the outfit, an aging Victoria who is every inch the monarch and tough as old boots as the job requires, and Sarah Jane, who is not only the one to deliver the big smack upside the head to the Doctor, but who is presented as being damned sexy and competent at an age when most actresses can only get character work.

The only complete ditzes in the whole crew are Jackie and Estelle, and even then, they're presented with saving graces. Jackie serves as the voice of reason, and rises to the occasion more than once. As for Estelle, while they make it clear she's fanciful cannonfodder, they also present her as someone who survived some of England's hardest times and still worthy at her age of great love. I saw no nostalgia in Jack's relationship with her - he loved her because he *loved* her, not that he *had* loved her, if that makes sense.

Considering that so many shows don't even bother to cast anyone over the age of 35, I think New Who/Twood are doing pretty darn well. Especially now with the Adventures coming up, where it's an older career woman who is the mentor figure. It's about TIME a 50+ woman can give advice to the lead without wearing pearls and serving up chocolate chip cookies at the same time!

Date: 2006-12-08 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redstarrobot.livejournal.com
I'm going to bow out of our various discussions for a few days, and reply to this (and the other one) later; I'm starting to get a bit stressed out by the tone of your comments, and that's not really the emotional place I like to approach fandom discussions from.

Date: 2006-12-09 08:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I'm sorry; while I disagree, I'm not trying to get up in your face, just state why I feel so strongly about my opinion.

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