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Go offline for a night and morning, and come back to find the fandom reeling, writing, and fainting in coils. And for good reason too. Because so many people are posting their reactions, thoughts, and what they're going to do now, I will too.
1) Rusty, if you're going to be shocked - SHOCKED I SAY! - that people complain that your treatment of thesecond first official black companion has some hefty racist undertones, please do not be quoted that you always meant for her to be "second best."
My changes in feelings/plans about Who in general upon hearing this: next to nothing.
My intense attraction to the Whoniverse has never been rational in the first place. I loved it through the bubblewrap and styrofoam years; I love it now. This never had anything to do with logic. I enjoy a solid, suspenseful story about gas mask zombies, but I also enjoy the sheer fromage factor in a cyberpole dancer slugging it out with a CGI dinosaur. I acknowledge that both sound pretty profoundly stupid when typed out.
I have no problems investing my interest and admiration in any companion (or any Doctor) because if I could recover from the blasphemy of Peter Davison unraveling the scarf and Leela falling in love, of all OOC things, then I'm going to be fine now. My default setting towards all new companions is "like until otherwise convinced" and that hasn't changed. I still like Rose. I still like and admire Martha. I expect to like and admire Donna as she comes back. I still miss Nyssa and Leela.
I still think that Rusty's dodgy racial and sexual issues are partially balanced by the way he writes women and minorities. Far from wiped out, but at least a little balanced. Mickey went from Uncle Tom to worldsaver. Martha was strong enough to care for the Doctor in a time not her own and walk an apocalyptic world. Sarah Jane stopped pining over the Doctor and became him. This does count. No matter how stupid he is offscreen, no matter how badly he fumbles onscreen, he is at least trying to present intelligent, sexy action roles for people who aren't getting enough of those kinds of opportunities. I acknowledge and appreciate that... and will continue to write essays bitching about how he's not getting it right.
I still feel, as I've posted previously, that the storylines we've seen onscreen don't portray Rose as more special than any other companion. Not with Girl in the Fireplace and School Reunion in the canon, among others, including Father's Day. (Yes, it's a story about Rose's issues. It's also a story where Rose almost destroyed the world.)
I'm still at peace with the whole return thing, because it remains a fact that every person we know travels on the TARDIS next season is someone who originally left it, and thus do not feel that the "return" storyline is reserved to show off any character. *stares at that, decides that it is vague enough to not need spoiler warnings.*
I'm still fine with fandom. The fandom creates wank and angst (and I must take a moment to say that I appreciate the mods of T&C, which I've returned to, blocking what I'm sure has been at least one "neener, neener" post) but it also creates things of great delight, from thought-provoking essays to the silliest of crackfic. I'm not giving up any of that and the pleasure it gives me because the producer shoved his foot in his mouth.
And speaking of fanfic: Martha drabbles, each for a letter of the alphabet Gotta love anything with a title like J is for Jabberwocky in it. Not to mention N is for Not On Your Life You Horny Little Arrogant Prick.
1) Rusty, if you're going to be shocked - SHOCKED I SAY! - that people complain that your treatment of the
My changes in feelings/plans about Who in general upon hearing this: next to nothing.
My intense attraction to the Whoniverse has never been rational in the first place. I loved it through the bubblewrap and styrofoam years; I love it now. This never had anything to do with logic. I enjoy a solid, suspenseful story about gas mask zombies, but I also enjoy the sheer fromage factor in a cyberpole dancer slugging it out with a CGI dinosaur. I acknowledge that both sound pretty profoundly stupid when typed out.
I have no problems investing my interest and admiration in any companion (or any Doctor) because if I could recover from the blasphemy of Peter Davison unraveling the scarf and Leela falling in love, of all OOC things, then I'm going to be fine now. My default setting towards all new companions is "like until otherwise convinced" and that hasn't changed. I still like Rose. I still like and admire Martha. I expect to like and admire Donna as she comes back. I still miss Nyssa and Leela.
I still think that Rusty's dodgy racial and sexual issues are partially balanced by the way he writes women and minorities. Far from wiped out, but at least a little balanced. Mickey went from Uncle Tom to worldsaver. Martha was strong enough to care for the Doctor in a time not her own and walk an apocalyptic world. Sarah Jane stopped pining over the Doctor and became him. This does count. No matter how stupid he is offscreen, no matter how badly he fumbles onscreen, he is at least trying to present intelligent, sexy action roles for people who aren't getting enough of those kinds of opportunities. I acknowledge and appreciate that... and will continue to write essays bitching about how he's not getting it right.
I still feel, as I've posted previously, that the storylines we've seen onscreen don't portray Rose as more special than any other companion. Not with Girl in the Fireplace and School Reunion in the canon, among others, including Father's Day. (Yes, it's a story about Rose's issues. It's also a story where Rose almost destroyed the world.)
I'm still at peace with the whole return thing, because it remains a fact that every person we know travels on the TARDIS next season is someone who originally left it, and thus do not feel that the "return" storyline is reserved to show off any character. *stares at that, decides that it is vague enough to not need spoiler warnings.*
I'm still fine with fandom. The fandom creates wank and angst (and I must take a moment to say that I appreciate the mods of T&C, which I've returned to, blocking what I'm sure has been at least one "neener, neener" post) but it also creates things of great delight, from thought-provoking essays to the silliest of crackfic. I'm not giving up any of that and the pleasure it gives me because the producer shoved his foot in his mouth.
And speaking of fanfic: Martha drabbles, each for a letter of the alphabet Gotta love anything with a title like J is for Jabberwocky in it. Not to mention N is for Not On Your Life You Horny Little Arrogant Prick.
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Date: 2007-12-15 11:38 pm (UTC)And thanks for the link to the Martha drabbles. I was just looking for some fic to read! :D
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Date: 2007-12-15 11:56 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2007-12-16 12:49 am (UTC)What said why, where?
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Date: 2007-12-16 01:48 am (UTC)It is possible that they're twisting a quote out of context. It's also possible that they aren't. There is, unsurprisingly, much heartache in Martha fandom.
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Date: 2007-12-16 12:59 am (UTC)I'm seriously considering a "put the keyboards down and step away from the spoilers" post to LifeOnMartha, because while I totally understand why this gets up people's noses, the collective angst can't be doing anyone's blood pressure any good. Yet miraculously, we've not been wank-reported so far, either.
In an attempt to maintain perspective, compared to what my other main fandom is angsting over (http://community.livejournal.com/discworld/795984.html) this is pretty damn trivial and not that surprising, so I'm not frothing at the mouth, just irritated.
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Date: 2007-12-16 01:58 am (UTC)I'd love to be on that comm if I wasn't already struggling to keep up with LJ.
the downer effect is even more pronounced than normal.
That and it seems as if a lot of Martha fans are becoming fear-biters right now, ready to assume the worst. That's harshing my squee more than anything officially announced. But then I remember that when Rusty was in the height of Rose adoration, he commissioned the GitF script. That his "second-best" companion was written as strong and smart and desirable (if to everyone but the Doctor) and saved the world without the Doctor's help. That the one thing that I did NOT want to see in new Who was the return of the Master, and (at least up until the Tinkerbell Time Lord moment) I was on the edge of my seat.
Just knowing that settles me right back down.
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Date: 2007-12-16 03:02 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-16 03:25 am (UTC)No you don't; I earned it in one of the two ugliest fan wars to hit panfandom at the time, and lost a fandom that I was very fond of... twice.
On the other hand? It certainly has proved to be helpful now!
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Date: 2007-12-16 04:37 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-16 03:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-12-16 06:47 am (UTC)AFAIK, that real scarf is part of the Brighton exhibit, one of the few "classic" Who items to have moved into it from the old Llangollen site (most others went into storage since the new site is mostly new who).
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Date: 2007-12-16 03:23 pm (UTC)Mostly the part about being 14.
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Date: 2007-12-16 09:13 am (UTC)And thanks for the level-headedness, too, it's helped make me feel at least a little bit better, although I'm still hoping Donna slaps Ten an average of once an episode or more when she gets back. XD
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Date: 2007-12-16 03:24 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2007-12-17 02:41 pm (UTC)And haven't seen any 'neener neener' posts to block, but then again, maybe people has learned not to post them since they get the snip-snip anyway. Not to mention posts about Martha wouldn't be on topic in the first place, so that'd just be dumb to try.