Comic Con for those who aren't attending (& Hamlet)

[neadods]

The great thing about fandom in the Internet Age is that vicariously experiencing things is getting more and more real-time. And more and more outright real!

thefannishwaldo liveblogged the Julie Gardener - Stephen Moffat panel (small spoilers for Christmas special at end). There'll be a separate post for the Torchwood panel at some point. So far all she's posted is that there was a "marry, shag, or cliff" game with John, Julie, and Gareth, and Naoko (in which Naoko volunteered to be cliffed - John said he'd shag her first - he'd then shag Julie, but he'd marry Gareth "because I've seen him naked.")

And I don't know who grabbed the minute-long clip of John Barrowman and Naoko Mori singing Miss Saigon with Gareth in the middle.

The OG links to three interviews with Stephen Moffat from Comic Con


In Hamlet news, I'm more than a little appalled that the Tennant website has had to post basic theater etiquette - and I mean REALLY basic stuff, like "don't disturb the actors or the rest of the audience." *facepalm* The RSC/actors (who started it I'm not sure) have also put out a huge set of warnings that they will only sign stuff about Hamlet, not Star Trek or Doctor Who memorabilia. That makes sense enough. However, I'm sure it's the RSC that has added the rider that it must be materials from the RSC shop which does piss me off. For those of us who *have* theater diaries and/or favorite script copies, it seems frankly petty.

Not that anyone could necessarily tell in a glance say, an Arden that came from the RSC vs the Borders downtown DC anyway.

(I have a copy of the Arden complete that has served as notes and theater diary ever since I started going to Stratford Ont. & ushering at the DC Shakes; I've been writing down the dates/locations of the productions and (in the script itself) details of the particularly notable bits of business.)


PS - and since this is suddenly turning into the overarching Who post of the day, the Sun will just print anything they wank onto a page, won't they? The latest article is so full of facepalm fail I don't even know which loose end to start yanking to unravel it. Poor Freema, is she always going to end up being the whipping girl of the Whoniverse? (There was even Yet Another Ugly Rumor about the poor woman at Shore Leave, which was quickly and tidily shot down.)

It's going to be frickin' hilarious in retrospect if she's in both Torchwood and Law and Order: London, as is easily likely considering England's short show seasons. Far more likely than an experienced, professional showrunner somehow assuming that a working actress would turn down work in the hopes of some sort of last-minute "oops, we wrote huge scenes for you but forgot to actually sign you up" contract.

Truly, there is not enough eyeroll in the world.

Comments

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

What was the Yet Another Ugly Rumor about Freema?

And why do so many people hate her so fucking much? :(

[persiflage-1.livejournal.com]

I can only assume they hate her 'cos they're jealous that she's talented, gorgeous and a lovely person...

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

And yet, they were willing to do a 180 on their previous hate for Catherine Tate, when she also revealed herself to be all of the above ...

I'm REALLY trying to believe that this is not related to certain people's dislike of certain skin tones. :(

[persiflage-1.livejournal.com]

Actually, given the Scum's previous record, that last is, unfortunately, highly likely...

[violetisblue.livejournal.com]

Given the disgusting "Freema is only getting cast so much because she's black" comment thread on the former OG recently, you're unfortunately probably right.

[ladyfox7oaks.livejournal.com]

Some one said... Worse, *POSTED* .. WHAT!?

[violetisblue.livejournal.com]

Yep.

[ladyfox7oaks.livejournal.com]

(Retch)

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

Jesus Christ, are they NEVER going to forgive her for standing in the way of their Ten/Rose OTP? I guess the only reason Catherine got spared was because they could cast her as the YENTA for their ship.

[violetisblue.livejournal.com]

"Jesus Christ, are they NEVER going to forgive her for standing in the way of their Ten/Rose OTP?"

Never, ever, ever ever ever ever. And given that they're sinking this low when three of the four recent parts she's been offered (Little Dorrit, Survivors, Torchwood, L&O London) AREN'T WHO-RELATED, I think we can at last retire the genteel fiction that "it's not Freema I dislike, it's Martha!"

[steviesun.livejournal.com]

Okay, now I don't like Ten, it's well known that I don't like him. But but but, I would never be as nasty about Tennent or either Ten as it sounds like some people are being about Martha/Freema. Gah! [bangs head against desk] Now I'm not saying that I'm a huge Martha fan, as much as I respect her, but Freema is fantastic!

[violetisblue.livejournal.com]

Martha, the character, could have been better written/better employed on the show (IMO), but for God's sake, if someone really hates the character that much wouldn't they be thrilled that the actress has (apparently) signed to a part that makes it much less likely we'll be seeing her in the Whoniverse for a while? Particularly with a new producer about to take over? There's a tiny but incredibly nasty contingent on the Forum that seems fixated tearing down Freema and her career ("The Beeb fired her! She only got that acting award because Billie Piper wasn't nominated against her! She only got Survivors and L&O because she's black!"), and Christ, I'm a fan of Freema's and I'm not one-tenth as obsessed with her as they are.

[neadods.livejournal.com]

The Beeb fired her!

Of all the nasty rumors, that's the one that really knots my knickers. Fired != sent to other flagship shows for another airing nor brought back for close to half the next season. That has to be the most special (and lucrative) definition of "fired" I've ever heard of in my life.

Fired="don't let the door hit your ass on the way out," as the girl who played Kelsea can doubtless tell anyone.

[neadods.livejournal.com]

Hang on, I do have to say that shipper doesn't automatically equal racist!

(However, I do think that a certain contingent did cut Donna much more slack because she wasn't a romantic rival for Rose and did, to some degree, yenta.)

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

Oh, no, not saying ALL Ten/Rose shippers = racist! Not at all!

However, a considerable percentage of Freema-haters probably = Ten/Rose batchippers, and a considerable percentage of Ten/Rose batchippers probably = fangirls with some racial issues, which was the point I was trying to make.

I'm REALLY not looking forward to seeing how Yasmin Paige's replacement on SJA is treated by fandom. As much as I love love LOVE Maria (and her dad, who serves as my proxy in my fantasies of fucking Sarah Jane), as long as she's given a respectful send-off (DO NOT WANT ALAN AND CHRISSIE GETTING BACK TOGETHER), then I won't hold it against the new girl, and I hope that other fans will be similarly charitable.

And yet, I swear, I can already hear the racial epithets being hurled her way ... :(

[violetisblue.livejournal.com]

Oh, good, someone else who does NOT want another tacked-on marital reconciliation (though I have a sad feeling that's just what we'll get) and who wants Rani to be well-received even as I'll miss Maria. At the very least I'd hope people would hold their fire rather than beat up on a kid, though that might be very naive of me.

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

See, I can actually buy off on Clive and Francine, simply because of the shared hell they went through together. Yes, he was a selfish, thoughtless prick to leave her for a skinny young blonde, but then again, she also betrayed her own daughter to the Master (albeit with the best of intentions), so it's not like either one was entirely blameless.

But Chrissie Jackson? Jesus Christ, I think I'd rather let kids be raised by crack addicts, pedophiles or Dina Lohan than that woman. She and Sylvia Noble are neck-and-neck for the title of Worst Parent in the Whoniverse, and at least Sylvia has the advantage of receiving a Dire Fucking Warning from the Doctor to be a better parent. If Chrissie was my mom, I think I'd rather hear the sounds of gunshots coming from my own bedroom than to hear her voice.

[neadods.livejournal.com]

If people rag on the actress who plays Rani for being British Indian while somehow overlooking Yasmin Paige's fairly obvious name and probable heritage, parts of my head will explode.

I don't think we'll get a marital reconciliation. I'm hoping that Alan takes a job away from home. We already know that he has a software business, which translates quite nicely to any other big city, or even to America.

[neadods.livejournal.com]

I'm not sure that the new SJA actress is going to have to face the same firestorm if for no other reason than the fandom is 1/5 the size of the other two.

My call on the coverstory is that Alan's software company is going to require him to move; they already suggested as much in the Who finale.

[box-in-the-box.livejournal.com]

Moving because of his job would be fine. Hey, it happened with my family when I was a kid. As long as Maria and Alan get their goodbyes and well-wishes with Sarah Jane and company. Bonus points if there's a torch-passing scene between Maria and Rani, to ease the transition, although I doubt it will happen. Super-bonus points if Alan confesses his love for Sarah Jane to her before he goes, although I REALLY doubt it will happen.

[biichan.livejournal.com]

What the fucking fuck? WHO WRITES THIS SHIT?

[violetisblue.livejournal.com]

Starts with a Team, ends with a Rocket. You're shocked to the core, aren't you?

[biichan.livejournal.com]

Fucking fucktards.

[violetisblue.livejournal.com]

Yo, Team? Freema did not write the scripts that closed out Rose's storyline. The writers and production staff did that. FUCKING GET USED TO IT. And if you're feeling this hateful when she's doing what YOU WANTED HER TO DO ALL ALONG and leaving the franchise and the role of Martha for greener pastures, get some fucking therapy.

[neadods.livejournal.com]

Take a deep breath - it's not like Team Rocket (best. Name. Ever!) reads this LJ.