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So, on the 17th, I linked to Judge Land's excellent legal takedown of the whole Birther nonsense vis a vis Orly Taitz and Captain Rhodes.

In it, I said that Captain Rhodes had asked for a reconsideration, and Taitz was on the talkshows, slinging the word "treason" around.

Well! Make your popcorn and settle in comfortably, boys and girls, because the second act has started.

First of all, Captain Rhodes sent a letter to Judge Land saying that Taitz had filed the reconsideration motion without her knowledge or permission. I do not wish for Ms. Taitz to file any future motions or represent me in any way in this court. It is my plan to file a complaint with the California State Bar due to her reprehensible and unprofessional actions.

Ms. Taitz, however, not only proceeded, but her motion (here in pdf format) brings the batshit in new and interesting ways. Did you know that your father being an (admittedly disloyal and possibly treacherous) Subject of the British Crown invalidates the US citizenship of the child of a US mother regardless of that baby's place of birth? [p4] Yeah, me neither. She mentions that not agreeing with her position smacks of treason, and she whines he obviously hasn't read her "careful" research and also that she hasn't been given enough time to respond.

Well, Judge Land didn't need much time to point out that he told her he'd sanction her if she filed another frivolous petition with his court on this issue. It was deja vu all over again he starts, before getting into the meat of the matter, which is that the motion for reconsideration is denied and she has 14 days to show why he shouldn't land her with a $10,000 fine. [p2]

Page 6 is quite nice. Although the First Amendment may allow the Plaintiff's council to make these wild accusations on her blog or in her press conferences, the federal courts are reserved for hearing genuine legal disputes and not as a platform for political rhetoric.

In the meantime, other conspiracy theorists are coming up with reasons why the Rhodes letter was forged or false.

Date: 2009-09-20 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendymr.livejournal.com
Oh, the batshit. It's hilarious, except I have to remind myself that rather a lot of people actually believe this 'birther conspiracy' rubbish. And, of course, they'll use responses like Judge Land's dismissals as 'evidence' that the 'establishment' is deliberately shutting up those willing to tell the truth.

And from where does she get the insane notion that the child of a British citizen, if born in the US (and especially of an American parent) can't be a US citizen? That's... sorry, my brain can't comprehend it.

Orly Taitz, de facto lawyer, STFU.

Date: 2009-09-21 01:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
And, of course, they'll use responses like Judge Land's dismissals as 'evidence' that the 'establishment' is deliberately shutting up those willing to tell the truth.

Well of course. If "Rush O'Reilly" says it's true, then it's fact.

What gets me most about the British subject part is that Taitz's supporters will probably vehemently and simultaneously agree that illegal aliens are sneaking into America just so the women can give birth and make their kids Americans.

Date: 2009-09-20 10:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mydeira.livejournal.com
This is the kind of stuff that makes fandom seem sane.

Date: 2009-09-21 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
People are people everywhere. The stuff we see in fandom is echoed outside it and vice versa.

Date: 2009-09-21 01:48 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] badgermirlacca.livejournal.com
"the obvious fact that his Father was an (admittedly disloyal and possibly treacherous) Subject of the British Crown when he was born, even though this fact alone would disqualify the President as a “natural born citizen”, regardless of his place of birth."


Under this reasoning, at least the first at least half-dozen Presidents of the United States would be disqualified, too.

Date: 2009-09-21 01:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
There you go with facts again.

As I say upthread, many of Taitz's supporters will probably simultaneously agree with this line of reasoning *and* decry illegal immigrant women sneaking in to give birth on American soil so they can claim an American dependent.

Date: 2009-09-21 01:59 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] badgermirlacca.livejournal.com
That probably should have been "at least the first half-dozen Presidents". Sorry. Tried to edit, couldn't for some reason.

Date: 2009-09-21 02:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
You couldn't edit because I'd already replied.

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