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THE PROFANE RANT:
It always makes me apeshit when the price of gas goes up beyond the ability of people to, oh, afford to go to a job not near public transport in their reasonable-mileage cars, and someone starts snotting about how "You don't bitch about the price of milk or bottled water and they're even more expensive."

Of course I don't. I don't need the latter at all, and I don't need to buy 10 gallons of the former every week just to go to work.

So when I click a link about "if you use these oil-based products you are partially culpable for the BP spill" and read "sweaters, dresses, clothes" on it and I'm sitting here in second-hand all-cotton clothing, my immediate reaction is "you can back that bullshit down several notches right fucking now, mmmkay?"

Acrylic and polyester clothing are made of oil. That's only one of the reasons why they're not your best choice, another being that they don't breathe and thus will kill you the hell dead if you wear them for long outside in a Southern summer.

On the other hand, second-hand clothing businesses are thriving in this economy, and you can get some really good stuff for prices that match or are lower than the budget "straight from the Third-world sweatshop to you!" chain stores. And the quality is often better because it has *survived* to be sold for a second time. I'm just sayin'.

And that's before I get to the rant about how there's plenty of excellent old wood furniture and not-plastic tools out there.

THE TINY LEAP OF JOY
For once, a home improvement possibility that doesn't cost me lots of extra time and money! Long story short, the smallest sheet of linoleum I could buy for the 3 x 6 pantry was 6 x 9. Rather than spend the time and $$ refinishing (or hiring someone to refinish) the coat closet floor, I'm going to have plenty of leftover lino to put down there as well. And then I won't have to worry about the carpet cleaner leaking onto wood or the vacuum cleaner scuffing up the finish. I doubt I'm even going to glue it down; just use vinyl tape to make sure it doesn't crawl.

Date: 2010-06-04 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] starcat-jewel.livejournal.com
You would be amazed at how many people just won't shop at a thrift store. In some cases, it's because their parents never did and so it's just not on their radar, but some of the most surprising people have the "but that's something only POOR PEOPLE do" meme stuck in their heads.

Admittedly, it's a different experience from going to a chain store. Some thrift stores, for reasons I have never been able to ascertain, sort clothing by color rather than size, which is a Major Pain. Skinny people will always have many more options than large people, because most of the clothing in a thrift store will have been donated by someone who gained weight and can't fit in it any more. You won't find the Latest Hot Trendy Stuff there, and you still have to watch out for synthetics. And good luck if you're looking for a specific item (this applies to household goods as well) -- thrift shops are more of a "go in and see if there's anything I can use" option.

OTOH, you will never see me in a pair of jeans NOT bought at a thrift store any more. The advantage to buying them already "broken in" is worth any amount of inconvenience.

Date: 2010-06-04 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I didn't do the thrift thing for years because the clothing was crap... but I've found one in the area here that not only has good things, it specializes in size zaftig.

I've done well with classics, such as blue jeans and T-style tops.

Date: 2010-06-04 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com
... but I've found one in the area here that not only has good things, it specializes in size zaftig.

Really? Can I ask which store?

Date: 2010-06-04 11:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Curve Appeal, 8258 Veterans Highway Ste 2, Millersville. 410-987-1623 "In the area" is a bit of an elastic term...

You can't see it from the road, but there's a Domino's sign on the road and it's in the back part of a little strip mall next to an insurance company.

Date: 2010-06-05 12:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com
Ah, good to know. Bit of a trip, though!

Date: 2010-06-05 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
It's (vaguely) near my work, but yeah - I don't go often.

However, the prices are right. I'm wearing a $3 top and $7 jeans.

Date: 2010-06-05 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] taffimai.livejournal.com
I usually go to Value Village -- not the best selection of larger clothes but good enough. Plus it's closer and has great prices.

Date: 2010-06-05 12:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I haven't been there in a while and need to check it out. But at least if I drive out to Curve Appeal, I know I won't be pawing through a lot of stuff that doesn't fit, or needs retailoring. (I've bought men's silk shirts and put darts in 'em!)

Date: 2010-06-04 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyfox7oaks.livejournal.com
I had that same meme stuck in my head... until my sister dragged me in one day and I started finding the silk shirts... :D

Date: 2010-06-04 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jennetj.livejournal.com
I will forever bless the parents of a close high-school friend who turned me on to the glories of thrift-shopping. While a good half my wardrobe now comes from thrift shops, a lot of it is "the thrill of the hunt". Nothing beats the "OMG I have an Eileen Fisher jacket for $3.99" buzz.

Date: 2010-06-04 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
So true!

Date: 2010-06-04 03:08 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com
I positively refuse to wear non-cotton clothing - it's revolting stuff if your skin is as sensitive as mine.

Just curious...

Date: 2010-06-04 04:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyfox7oaks.livejournal.com
What about the other natural fibers? silk, linen, hemp?

Re: Just curious...

Date: 2010-06-04 05:06 pm (UTC)
ext_3965: (10 M Running Hand in Hand S&J)
From: [identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com
Can't afford silk or linen - never tried hemp.

Re: Just curious...

Date: 2010-06-04 06:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyfox7oaks.livejournal.com
That's where those thrift shops come in DARNED handy! I can usually get a 100% silk shirt there for less than $10, usually around $4 or $5.

Re: Just curious...

Date: 2010-06-04 06:12 pm (UTC)
ext_3965: (Alesha & James Court Clothes)
From: [identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com
Well I don't tend to try buying clothes in secondhand shops because I have trouble finding my size being on the larger side...

Re: Just curious...

Date: 2010-06-04 06:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyfox7oaks.livejournal.com
Yeah, I usually have to go through the men's shirts to find things that will fit my broad shoulders... (THANKS , DAD!)

Re: Just curious...

Date: 2010-06-04 06:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com
I buy men's shirts anyway (it's rare to find all cotton women's blouses here) - but I can't blame my dad for my large chest size! o_O

Re: Just curious...

Date: 2010-06-04 08:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Ask around; you never know. I don't have a lot of luck at the "regular" thrift stores, but there's one near here that specializes in larger women. Irony - in many places, the clothing's too small for me; in this one, sometimes what I want is too big!

Re: Just curious...

Date: 2010-06-04 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Technically, Tencel too. And I'm betting corn and soy will figure more; they're just starting to make inroads as knitting yarn.

Re: Just curious...

Date: 2010-06-04 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyfox7oaks.livejournal.com
Ooh, and I'm seeing more bamboo stuff, too!

Re: Just curious...

Date: 2010-06-04 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Bamboo is *everywhere*! I've seen clothing, knitting yarn, and flooring. The flooring is a bit tempting; prices are good.

It's an excellent resource; renewable, fast-growing, and grows a lot of places... including around here. King Cotton and King Tobacco may have to share their crowns.

Re: Just curious...

Date: 2010-06-04 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyfox7oaks.livejournal.com
I'd be quite happy if "King Tobacco" gave his up and became a historical footnote, frankly.

(Oh Carp! I think I just added "frnakly" to my dictionary!)

Date: 2010-06-04 05:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I wear as little non-natural fiber as I can get away with... and I'm allergic to wool, so that cuts it down further. (Love alpaca, but the expense!)

Date: 2010-06-04 05:25 pm (UTC)
ext_3965: (Freema Reading)
From: [identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm not fond of wool either...

Date: 2010-06-04 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fabricdragon.livejournal.com
good quality wool is FABULOUS. unless you are sadly allergic to it.

i feel about other people's wool allergies the way most people feel about my garlic allergies
"how can you LIVE?"

still, there is always linen

Date: 2010-06-04 06:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com
I'm not exactly allergic to it, but it does make me twitch and feel uncomfortable.

Date: 2010-06-04 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fabricdragon.livejournal.com
if so, you are in need of a finer micron wool...
and quite possibly you need to watch out for the dyes. many people have trouble with the processing methods or the dyes, not the actual fiber..

and lots of people cannot tolerate coarse or even medium wool, but the ultra fine merino may be dandy...(not your typical sweater, no. like a fine men's suit)

lucky for me, i can work with wool right off the sheep. i just have to watch out for some of the chemicals they use in processing.

Date: 2010-06-04 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fabricdragon.livejournal.com
doesnt have to be.
i can buy men's suit wool at the local tailoring shops for 8-20 bucks a yard, and at the wholesale/discount store for 3-6 dollars a yard.

also? you can often find mens suits at a Goodwill and have them re tailored cheaper than you imagine

now the really fine yarn for kniting? yes expensive usually, but if you watch for sales. not so much.

mind you, its not like you HAVE to buy wool.. its just often nice to understand what teh issue is, so you dont miss out on a good opportunity.

Date: 2010-06-05 05:01 am (UTC)
ext_3965: (Handy Thinking)
From: [identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com
We don't have Goodwill stores over here (UK) so far as I know.

Date: 2010-06-04 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
i just have to watch out for some of the chemicals they use in processing.

That may be my problem. I don't have any trouble with sheepskin. (I used to care for a lamb in a petting zoo, but that's another story.)

Date: 2010-06-05 02:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fabricdragon.livejournal.com
if you can handle sheep skin.. then its probably teh processing chemicals.
try laundering/dry cleaning something.....
oh, and woolite is EVIL. when in doubt use Orvis, or shampoo.....

Date: 2010-06-05 01:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I always use shampoo on wool (like those fluffy dusters) and silk.

Date: 2010-06-04 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Sounds like a mild allergy to me. It makes me twitch and itch no matter what's been done to it! (or possibly because of what's been done to it.)

Date: 2010-06-05 05:02 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com
Could be, I guess...

Date: 2010-06-04 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Oh, I LOVE me some linen! Hate ironing with a fiery burning passion, but it's worth it for the linen!

Date: 2010-06-04 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steviesun.livejournal.com
I spend more than 10% of my income just getting to and from work and doing a single journey to my local farmshop a week. Last week fuel for my car was at 120.99 (fuel's always in pence over here and not pounds) per litre. I've tried and failed several times to organise a carshare to spare some of the cost. A friend of mine at work can however still drive to work for less than it would cost to travel by train. People NEED to have reasonal alturnatives before we can give up our cars.

Last time I went clothes shopping I went into two shops, walked out in disgust at the quality Vs the price Vs materials used and walking into a fabric shop to buy a new pattern and some fabric. Trying to take a leaf out of clothes rationing I'm trying to only buy few clothes and make them last. My own way of reducing waste.

Date: 2010-06-04 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
People NEED to have reasonal alturnatives before we can give up our cars.

*ding*ding*ding*ding*ding* WE HAVE A WINNER!

A generation or so ago, the car companies did their damnedest to drive public transport out of business. They succeeded... and now instead of subsidizing something that benefits everyone, we're subsidizing them!

I'm probably going to start making some clothing - simple, basic stuff - once I have the house in gear. I want a wardrobe of elastic-waisted skirts in the hope that I can lose weight and continue to wear them down a couple sizes.

Date: 2010-06-04 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] steviesun.livejournal.com
I remember an interview with Tony Blair, so it must have been a number of years ago now. And he said that if the government in the UK were to take back control of the trains that it would ten years before people saw much benefit. Well it's years later and the prices keep rising for train travel and they still can't provide the service that we want.

I wish I hadn't been feeling so mentally unwell or I'd be getting more made. No item of clothing I have worn has ever been so complimented as the lovely full green skirt I made myself. Homemade can be the size you want, the colour you want, and will have a smaller carbon footprint. I need to learn to knit better/faster now I've discovered a shop in town that likes to sell not only yarns that are natural fibres but from local sources. She even sells a yarn where she knows the name of the sheep it came from.

Date: 2010-06-04 11:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
She even sells a yarn where she knows the name of the sheep it came from.

That is freakin' cool!

Date: 2010-06-04 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fabricdragon.livejournal.com
i shop thrift stores all the time, although it certainly does take longer to find stuff.... and true, there is MUCH less available in plus sizes.

i keep hearing "but its USED. someone else put it on!" and "OMG, what if they had lice?" when i talk about Goodwill.
they dont seem to GET that the shiny stuff in the mega mart there has been tried on, and on, by a lot of people.... and having read the customer suckage posted by people who work in chain clothing stores..... (shudder) well apparently the clothes in my local thrift store are probably cleaner.

Polyester will indeed kill you ded in hot weather.


Date: 2010-06-04 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
they dont seem to GET that the shiny stuff in the mega mart there has been tried on, and on, by a lot of people....

It makes my mother nuts that I wash new clothing before I wear it. She's seriously suggested that it's a sign of mental illness on my part. The problem, of course, is that I know MUCH more about where that clothing has been, how it's been shipped, and the odds of other people being in it than she does.

As for the stuff from the thrift stores - well, it goes in the wash first thing too, and never a problem.

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