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To keep this from being entirely content free, and because everyone's posting their $.02 about Torchwood being picked up: (WARNING: I'm not squeeing)

Starz can afford it, at least. It shouldn't look or be cheap. And it sounds like John Barrowman and Eve Myles will get some free trips out of filming.

However, it's being run by the exact same team and RTD has already said that the first episode is "shocking and touching," for which I read "bloodsoaked and emotionally manipulative." As I still have not forgiven them for the end of COE, I intend to neither be shocked, touched, nor watching. Maybe if they get through without killing off 60% of the cast and torturing children to death onscreen, I'll catch up after.

Date: 2010-06-08 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] un-sedentary.livejournal.com
I still have not watched the end of CoE, mostly because it disturbed me greatly to read that Jack was forced to sacrifice his grandson in front of his pleading daughter. I thought it was going way too far with the ~"dark" theme.

Also, I think they took the "anyone can die" thing too far. I wasn't hugely attached to Ianto, or Tosh, or Owen, but to kill all three of them is too much. It makes it look gratuitous. And I think RTD wants to be Joss Whedon when he grows up. Except Joss could afford to kill off characters, because he had a lot more than 5 main characters (let's say 7, including Andy and Rhys - still not enough). I think RTD forgot about that part. -_-

I thought it was funny that JB posted on Twitter earlier, "I hope all of you will come on this exciting journey with Captain Jack and the Team." WHAT TEAM. 3/4 of your team is dead and the one who lived has a baby. How exactly is that going to work.

I'm happy for him and Eve and understand why they're excited... I just don't think there's any way that it can be really Torchwood, with the Hub destroyed and so few characters returning.
Edited Date: 2010-06-08 01:52 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-06-08 10:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
He was only "forced" because he wasn't thinking ahead in the first place - and this from someone who had dealt with the enemy before - and because RTD confuses a death toll with drama. It went too far with the dark theme when 60% of the cast was killed off.

I just don't think there's any way that it can be really Torchwood, with the Hub destroyed and so few characters returning.

Yes, isn't it convenient that the Rift - the main issue for the first two seasons - isn't at all a complication anymore?

I expect Torchwood to continue what I consider the worst of RTD's writing in Twood and Who - pronouncements of great drama that are handwaved seconds later and angst laid on with a trowel. He's very much a hardboiled writer (see upthread).

Date: 2010-06-09 12:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stlscape.livejournal.com
I thought it was funny that JB posted on Twitter earlier, "I hope all of you will come on this exciting journey with Captain Jack and the Team." WHAT TEAM. 3/4 of your team is dead and the one who lived has a baby. How exactly is that going to work.

I'm happy for him and Eve and understand why they're excited... I just don't think there's any way that it can be really Torchwood, with the Hub destroyed and so few characters returning.


No kidding - your team of self plus one isn't much of a team. I've got my doubts as to how much Eve will have to do in the new show, as well. She's just not what American audiences expect of their leads (in looks and accents). I'm expecting Jack will be relegated to the background this time (since TW was supposed to be the Gwen show and not the CJH show.)

Good for John & Eve and continued employment, but I won't be watching. Gwen was my least favourite character by a long shot, and I don't want to see a "rest of the world" *cough* aka US *cough* version of Gwenwood.

ETA: and I'm definitely wary of watching anything RTD is involved in.
Edited Date: 2010-06-09 12:11 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-06-09 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I've got my doubts as to how much Eve will have to do in the new show, as well.

She's apparently listed as a series regular in Variety, so that means she'll be in most of the episodes. I don't have issues with her - but I've got *plenty* of issues with RTD's idea of drama.

Date: 2010-06-09 01:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stlscape.livejournal.com
Good for Eve, then, and ITA re RTD and "drahma".

ETA: I just watched a BBC interview with RTD and noticed he kept looking down and to his left. Interesting. In body language "talk", this indicates that the person is lying to whoever he's speaking to. No. I'm not surprised.
Edited Date: 2010-06-09 02:53 am (UTC)

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