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Hmmm. Not a long comment this time, because we're on the cusp of the resolution, and well, what can you say outside "I wish it were tomorrow"?

The one-liners are once again excellent, although much scarier this time: "You are in my every nightmare." "A man who can't die has nothing to fear." "The first responsibility is to protect the best interests of this country, right?" "This goes for you people listening in on the wire." "We've been expecting you."

"Where'd it get 'em from?" I appreciate that it was the American who cut to the chase. But how come UNIT guy isn't sitting next to the American General anymore? I don't even see him in the room.

I wonder how many people will be using 325000 as a lottery number.

And then the big issue: Ianto. I was wrong, they did kill him off. However, I'm not going to write him off as really most sincerely dead and gone until and unless he doesn't resurrect at some point tomorrow due to some handwave or another. Yes, it's noble and all... but after the end of last season it's pretty derivative too, and Torchwood has already been whittled down past the point of survivability.

Date: 2009-07-10 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendymr.livejournal.com
325000 isn't viable as a lottery number as each number has to be unique :)

I haven't been spoiled for any of these episodes, apart from the existence of Jack's daughter, so I wasn't expecting the climax. I won't be surprised whichever way they choose to go with it, though: they killed Owen and Tosh last year, so killing Ianto now isn't exactly a step too far. Having said that... RTD seems to able to handwave all sorts of mysterious resurrections, and even if I don't care for Ianto personally he's popular among TW fans and RTD knows that. It would also be quite a risk, I'd think, to return to a normal season with Jack the only surviving member, much as Jack's the key character - assuming there is actually going to be another series. We'll see.

Date: 2009-07-10 12:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
It would be Jack and Gwen if they leave Ianto dead. But leaving him dead is also going to ruin all the lovely, lovely publicity they get in the alternate press for having a cannonical gay couple.

OTOH, she says wearily, at least it will end the constant "he's gonna die now." (Ianto lives) "How about now?" His death was written in and out of the two previous seasons, and so the entire fandom's been waiting loudly for the other shoe to drop.
Edited Date: 2009-07-10 02:12 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-07-10 06:18 am (UTC)
ext_3690: Ianto Jones says, "Won't somebody please think of the children?!?" (innuendo)
From: [identity profile] robling-t.livejournal.com
RTD seems to able to handwave all sorts of mysterious resurrections

My latest weird thought about it was bringing Ianto back as a virtual simulation living on the mainframe. Mostly because wouldn't that yank Jack's chain, when you think about the practical implications...

Date: 2009-07-10 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Mostly because wouldn't that yank Jack's chain

New frontiers in phone sex!

Date: 2009-07-10 01:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-morris.livejournal.com
My guess? Jack, Rhys and Gwen save the day, Jack says "It's over, we're shutting down" and walks away, letting the other two have a "normal life" together.

Until the next crisis occurs, whereupon Gwen will open the front door and find Tosh & Owen standing there in dark suits and ties:

"We're puttin' the band back together."
"We're on a mission from God."

Date: 2009-07-10 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Jack, Rhys and Gwen save the day, Jack says "It's over, we're shutting down" and walks away, letting the other two have a "normal life" together.

That would be kinda cool. And if the latter part ever happened, I think some people would fall to their knees and bless you and your progeny.

Date: 2009-07-10 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-morris.livejournal.com
Odd thought--does Jack's body now have an immunity to the virus?

Date: 2009-07-10 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Doesn't it have an immunity to everything anyway?

BTW, mentioned your theory on another journal. It's proven popular, especially the last bit. :D

Date: 2009-07-10 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jeff-morris.livejournal.com
I don't know if it's so much an immunity as a "reset". It's something I've actually thought about quite a bit, god knows why.

I have a sneaking suspicion I know where Day Five is going, and if I'm right it'll reinforce Torchwood as the "Utter Bastards" program. Because the aliens do have a very obvious weakness in their grand plan, and I'd be surprised if it wasn't exploited.

The bad part is that I can't do certain illegal activities to find out whether I'm right until Sunday/Monday. Please feel free to spoil my fanny off today. :)

Date: 2009-07-10 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
Because the aliens do have a very obvious weakness in their grand plan, and I'd be surprised if it wasn't exploited.

Note, am writing this before seeing the final episode: all the sniffing and the column of light is reminding me a great deal of Quatermass, and we know how that ended.

Date: 2009-07-10 06:13 am (UTC)
ext_3690: Ianto Jones says, "Won't somebody please think of the children?!?" (innuendo)
From: [identity profile] robling-t.livejournal.com
Until the next crisis occurs, whereupon Gwen will open the front door and find Tosh & Owen standing there in dark suits and ties:


I've been having the recurring thought that the deus ex machina this time is going to be an AU crashing in and bringing its versions of Tosh and Owen back with it...
Edited Date: 2009-07-10 06:14 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-07-10 02:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] not-hathor.livejournal.com
*SPRFLE*

Beautiful!!!!! I humbly offer my services as a beta reader....and my '94 Buick as a getaway car.

Date: 2009-07-10 06:27 am (UTC)
ext_3965: (Jack Smile)
From: [identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com
You couldn't use those number for the lotto - too many zeros and there's no 50, either.

Oh look, applying logic again, stop it Pers!

If Torchwood comes back for season 4, I'm gonna be amazed, to be honest!
Edited Date: 2009-07-10 06:28 am (UTC)

Date: 2009-07-10 10:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
If Torchwood comes back for season 4, I'm gonna be amazed, to be honest!

I'm wondering about that, and realizing that maybe I can live without Ianto if this is the end, fade to sunset. OTOH, I hear the ratings are excellent.

On the third hand, I just can't get past RTD thinking the show will continue without over half the cast. Unless he wants to "reboot" by having new "bring new people into Torchwood" episodes.

I don't know.

Date: 2009-07-10 10:13 am (UTC)
ext_3965: (Jack Smile)
From: [identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com
Ratings have been the highest ever for TW. But there's no guarantee they'd continue if we went back to the full 13 episodes format...

He sounded keen to do a fourth season before S3 aired - but that might just have been because he didn't want to give away the ending...

Date: 2009-07-10 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I've heard he wants to do a 4th and that he wants to walk away from all the spinoffs. Time will tell - he will say whatever doesn't spoil his plans.

Date: 2009-07-10 07:45 pm (UTC)
ext_3965: (SJS Specs Sexiness)
From: [identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com
Yeah - S3 of SJA is rumoured to be the last - whether that's true or not, I don't know.

Date: 2009-07-10 09:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I've heard it is; I've heard it isn't. Only time will tell in either case.

Date: 2009-07-11 04:41 am (UTC)
ext_3965: (Brig & SJS DWM Cover)
From: [identity profile] persiflage-1.livejournal.com
True enough! Personally, I think they'd be mad to abandon it, but then I'm shamelessly biased!

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