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This started out as a comment to [livejournal.com profile] starcat_jewel and turned into a rant, so I'll take it here.

My foul-mouthed opinion on Lazarus Long's Things Every Person Should Know )

I may need to get a loaner copy of the History of English, because I'm totally in love with this thing. *pets copy.* For those who are interested, the supplementary material for Part 2, so far, are:

Lecture #13: The Return of English as a Standard
Caxton, prologue to Eneydos
Lecture #16: The Shape of Modern English
Shakespeare, Henry IV (Act 2, Scene 4)
Lecture #18: The Language of Shakespeare - Drama, Grammar, and Pronunciation
King Lear (Act 2, scene 2)
Richard III (Act 1, scene 2)
Lecture #19: The Language of Shakespeare- Poetry, Sound, and Sense
Hamlet (Act 3, scene 1)
Sonnet 87
Lecture #20: The Bible in English
King James Version
Old English Version
Wycliffe Version
Tyndale Version

Have not yet had the Bible lecture, I read ahead in the course notes. Anyone know where I can get the Old English, Wycliffe, and Tyndale online?
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You'd think I'd learn not to talk about RPS after last time... but here I go. Since this wasn't directed as a question for the non-RPS folk I'm not going to go stir the shit on the original post or in the community. However, I just can't pass without comment.

[livejournal.com profile] carlanime posts a question to RPS readers/writers on [livejournal.com profile] fanthropology linking back to this post about how she started looking at people differently after RPSing them as a joke. I don’t mean to suggest for a second I agreed with any of his views or shared any of his motivations; in fact, the more of his speeches I read, the more opposed to his views I became. But, nevertheless, I was taking him seriously in some sense I hadn’t before. It was as if the process of ficcing him had somehow forced me to acknowledge his humanity.

Leading to this comment to the post that really blew my brain: This happened to me too. I looked and went, "Oh my GOD. That's actually a living, breathing, eating, sleeping person!"

Yes. It is.

Which still leaves me with my question about the whole damn genre - Why do you have to turn them into your fictionalized characters before you grasp that a human being is a human being? In all the flood of commentary when I first got my butt kicked for discussing this on LJ, I never got an answer to that that made any sense to me. Why in hell should it be a revelation that the actual person you're writing about is indeed a living, breathing, eating, sleeping person, and why only after writing about them do they become someone whose humanity now can be acknowledged?

SNARL!

May. 20th, 2005 07:47 am
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Spent most of the drive in to work framing a letter of rebuttal to Robin Givhan's "Wookiee at Me!" article in today's Post, which calls anyone who wears a costume for any reason sad, slobby, and mentally ill. (Bugmenot's pass past the registration is email batfart@mailinator.com and password batfart)

The reply sent to the newspaper. )

ETA: Sent to the Post at 11:15 via email.

ETA2: The Washington Post printed it in the "Free for All" section on 5/28.
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Laurell K. Hamilton lays it on the line: "And by the way, as the sexual content has gone up, so have the sales of the book." No wonder she also says "we ain't seen nothing yet." She also gives a spoiler for Anita's newest marysue power role.

Major, major props for commentor "Entropy" for this line: "Hint: A real editor is a good thing"

Not up there with the famous Rice rant, though, as she hasn't started going on about interrogating texts or Dickensian principles.
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When Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy came out, I got it, I read it, I loved it. Repeat x3 for the sequels. (I gave up after #4.) So you'd think that I'd be beside myself with joy over the new movie, which looks like it is really well done.

And... I'm not. I'm not because in the time since then, my tastes have changed. I'm more into the relatively restrained parody of Pratchett and Whedon than Adams. Although my friends rave about them, I'm not carried away by Jasper fford or Robert Rankin; I think they're a little too much in love with how cute they're being at the expense of actually telling a story.

All the delighted squee in my f-list over the new movie just hammers home to me that if someone handed me Hitchhiker right now, I'd toss it away after three pages. It's a wierd feeling. I'm not going to say I "outgrew" it, because that's the wrong word; it is what it is, and what it is, is famous. I just prefer other things now.

Doubling the wierd is that the last time I felt this way was also after a movie. The Lord of the Rings trilogy inspired me to pull out The Hobbit, another beloved former friend. And I don't like it anymore either. What profiteth a fan if she gain the whole trilogy but lose the Hobbit thereby?
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[livejournal.com profile] terri_osborne was first with the good news - There shall be a Librarian DVD and a sequel!

Announcement of the sequel
Implication of the DVD

Behold the power of cheese!

And speaking of cheese, I don't know if I ever passed this link on: Queer Eye for the Fandom Guy. The Fab Five take on Fox Mulder, Blair Sandburg, Lex Luthor, and Professor Snape, among others.

ETA: In the comments is buried a link to this gem - Queer Eye for the SG-1
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xposted to [livejournal.com profile] fanthropology

This last weekend has witnessed two really boneheaded maneuvers in my area of fan culture. Not just your average "I'm right/you're wrong/tastes great/less filling" drama, but a serious attempt to gain attention by spitting on the sensibilities of the greater fan culture.

Now I'm watching the two men involved try to get back in the good graces of their friends, and it's making me think about how one goes about that.

The first took place in public - at FilkOntario to be exact - and so I'm going to name names and be specific. I got a horrified email from a friend in the Boogie Knights that Tom Smith had marked the death of the Pope with a parody of "Dead Puppies." Even though my informant was a lapsed Catholic who dearly loves a good parody, she and several other members of the Knights were shocked to the core, and circumstances show they were far from alone.

Just now, Tom Smith has posted a public apology on his LJ under a cut tag. He doesn't specifically name what he did, but it sounds to me like he's referring to "Dead Pope-ies." Comments are disabled, so I don't know what reaction it is getting.

The other took place in private email, so I will not name names or go into specifics. Basically, on April 1, one person sent out a frantic mass email to his friends saying that his teenaged child had run away and they were desperate, please help. This was followed half the day later with a "ha, ha, April Fool, can't believe so many of you fell for that" message.

Quite a few people have replied to the same mass email list with their responses. None of them are along the lines of "ha, ha, fooled me." The kindest read like "how dare you cry wolf, you moron!" and the most furious were along the lines of "I had a lawyer lined up for you and was contacting my associates in law enforcement on your behalf, you asshole. Now I look like an idiot and you look like scum. Oh, and take me off your email list forever!"

The original poster has begun defending himself - don't we know he wouldn't mean to hurt us, don't we know how good his kids are and how impossible the scenario was, don't be so mad, please, I've learned my lesson, I'll go away now, let's move forward and get past this, kthnksbye.

This hasn't gone over well either. Boy, howdy, has it not. So far, the only response to this was a beautifully written essay on fan culture as a tribe and how his actions have hurt the entire tribe. One post was eloquent on how this action showed that the original poster didn't value the support system of his fannish tribe, so he shouldn't be surprised that the tribe was rejecting him. (I have asked permission to quote this without the names of those involved but not yet heard back.) ETA - I have permission to post it - it's long - and put it under a cut tag in the copy of this in Fanthropology

Fandom is a tribe. The cultures aren't exactly the same for all fandoms, we certainly have our holy wars over OTP & RPF & x/x & a variety of other acronyms, and like England, our basic Constitution is unwritten. But still, we have a discernable, distinct tribe and a sense of connection to our fellow fans through our mutual membership in the tribe.

So I'm left with the question. When one member's actions show great disrespect for the rest of the tribe, what does the tribe do? What "punishment" is correct, and how can the transgressor get back into the culture's good graces - and is that even possible?
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Remember when I asked "does this make me famous or does this make me fandomwank?

The answer turns out to be fandomwank.

I hope the folks mining my LJ for wankability enjoyed the boring stuff about my cold and my cats.
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First found by [livejournal.com profile] bentleywg, The last fight of Legolas, Snape, Ash, Gandaulf, Hermione, and Bobba Fett against the endless armies of Mary Sue.

Put all drinkables far, far away from the monitor first. You have been warned.

PS - why am I not surprised that that happens when you blow a mary sue up?
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Last week's RPS rant was prompted by a post from [livejournal.com profile] metafandom. This week, my original rant, Shay's response, and my "anthropologically interesting" followup are all linked in Metafandom, along with several posts on the general subject that don't reference me, Shay, or Sprat.

There's also a link to a very nice philosophical piece by [livejournal.com profile] bethbethbeth about the uselessness of saying "if you don't like it, don't read it."


I'm debating if I have the energy to read [livejournal.com profile] tanacawyr's post on fic feedback and comment or not. For some odd reason, when I think about posting a response in her LJ and possibly elaborating on that response in mine, I start to twitch...
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I once said I wanted one of those threads that went all over LJ, and now I've certainly learned to be careful what I ask for.

The arguments are becoming circular, which probably means that they're (hopefully) going to peter out soon. If not, I'm going to cut off commentary when we get to comment #200 or so simply because I need to actually get some work done today.

For the record, after all this talk/discussion/occasional snarl, I've not changed my mind regarding Real Person Sex/Slash. I have become more solidified in my opinion.

On the other hand, it wasn't until I was framing a response today that I remembered that I have been responsible for Real Person Fic within my own family; I once wrote a Quantum Leap story that undid the family mass murder. The general opinion of the rest of my family was that yeah, it could kinda sorta be seen as a tribute if you squinted at it sideways, and I didn't say anything that defamed the people involved... but they still would have preferred it if I'd waited another generation or two, because it was just a little too close to the bone, there. (It was, in fact, much the same response as I got when I wrote a fic using 9/11 in late 2002 - "it's too close, it's too personal, wait longer until the memory has faded.") So the comfort line there appears to be "wait a generation or two past living memory to fic a person/traumatic event." (Even in the original post, I drew a line between RPF and RPS.)

I can live with that. Especially since it allows me to go forward with the missionary project, in which I am basically chronicalling the lives of Real People at a far historical remove. I won't be speculating on their sex life, though. Much. Pregnancy does become an issue.

What fascinates me from an anthropological point of view is that I've written something like half a dozen posts regarding abortion, some of which have spread from my LJ to others like a meme, with no commentary from people outside my f-list. I've also posted several times about writing fanfiction. The 4 Ps of Cozy Mysteries and the Knowing Shit from Shakespeare fanfic and feminism posts got very minimal response.

But post one rant about RPS and watch it go off like a handgrenade...

When last I looked, this was going across Sprat's, [livejournal.com profile] menikoff's, [livejournal.com profile] shayheyred's and I think [livejournal.com profile] ginmar's LJs, and it tied back to a conversation that had just wrapped up on one of Shay's LJ friends.

All those posts about abortion & I have yet to be called a babykiller. All those posts about fanfic, but I wasn't called the thought police until yesterday. My personal favorite post was the one that kicks off this thread, written by someone who's come for just this discussion. I'm not calling it favorite sarcastically - from an anthropological standpoint, it's glorious. An absolutely classical attempt to silence dissent. In my life alone, I've heard much the same wording wielded against just about every civil rights protest I've been part of. Certainly I've heard it from both sides of the abortion fight, what with the anti-choice side saying "that just because you believe [the fetus doesn't have the rights of a grown person] to be so doesn't actually make it so" and the pro-choice side shooting back with "if you find [an abortion] reprehensible and evil, then (one) don't [have] it."

Now I'm off to see what effect all of this has had on my f-list, and to wait and see if any of my regulars have been scared away from the watering hole.

ETA: I've been linked somewhere; the second wave is coming after me now, and I do mean "coming after" me. Apparently RPSphobia is equivalent to homophobia. (??!) And someone complaining that I'm slinging the word "ethical" around, having apparently missed it in the original question which I was answering.

At some point when I'm not swamped under hundreds of comments, it might be interesting to have a conversation about ethics in general. Are there some things which are simply WRONG or is it all situational - and if the latter, who decides the situation?

ETA 2: [livejournal.com profile] ginmar's having that conversation, for those who are interested. Now that it looks like the firehose on my post is dwindling down, I'm going to try to check it out.
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I joined [livejournal.com profile] metafandom because it posts interesting links to fannish happenings around LJ, and hey - if [livejournal.com profile] fanthropology is good, than more of the same must be better.

We'll see how long I last now that my first post has led me to Sprat's commentary on Real Person Slash: "I know this is a sensitive area in fandom, and I know there are a lot of people for whom this is, like, A Really Major Deal--not just a personal squick, but an actual ethical issue having to do with the right to privacy of the actors in question. And the thing is, I honestly do not understand why."

Because they're people, that's why!

I commented in the thread, and I tried to keep my tone reasonable, but I am one of those folk with "an actual ethical issue" about this, and it's very simple to explain why - whether the actors in question know it or not, whether they read it or not, whether they care or not, real person fiction demotes a human being to the same level as a fictional character.

There are levels of this, some not all that offensive. For instance, obligatory disclosure, I once wrote a real person fic. I put a fictional character on a Julia Childe cooking show, which necessitated having Julia Childe in the story. But I don't feel that I denigrated her because I showed her doing her doing her job. And I've read plenty of fanfics where the actor gets sucked into the character's world, or vice versa. When the real person is written in a situation dealing with their job, and written in a manner that fits their character as known, then - well, you can argue that a line is crossed, but it's harder to argue that a person has been damaged or insulted.

But when you start talking about private issues - love, sex, family - in a public fiction, then you start treating people not just as moderately fictional, but as dancing meatpuppets. Real person slash - particularly slash about het humans (I get the impression that Sprat is writing about Paul Gross, who is married) depersonalizes the subjects even farther into breathing sex toys. Sex toys that are getting their workout not in the confines of someone's skull, but right out there in public for the amusement of the masses.

How can you not see that as ethically creepy?

There appear to be two arguments in favor of RPS. First, that the actors are attractive and sell their sexuality in their work. But just because they're selling the sizzle, it doesn't mean they're signing away their rights to control the steak. Where is the ethical line between saying "if actors wanted privacy they wouldn't be actors" and "if women don't want to be raped, they shouldn't wear miniskirts"? Because from where I'm standing, I can't see that line at all. RPS may not be as violent or violating as an actual rape, but it springs from the same mindset - that anyone that attracts is responsible for slaking the sexual arousal - regardless of that person's opinion, interest, or even intent. The same can be said for stalking. It's a fine, fine line between just writing about fantasies with someone and making those fantasies real.

And y'know what? Even if you NEVER plan on making said fantasies real, if you publicly post something torrid about an actor and then go see them, what is it going to look like - to the actor, to the authorities, even to the rest of the fandom? Better pray nothing happens to that actor when you're around, because you've made yourself public suspect #1 without ever banging more than your keyboard.

Second, is the argument that "what they don't know won't hurt them." Well, yeah. The odds of someone finding a specific story about themselves are pretty low. BUT - that doesn't mean it won't happen, not with the global, lingering nature of the Internet. Plus, while the odds of a single person finding a single fic might be low, what about the widening pool of people associating with that person? Their spouse, their children, their friends, their parents - is it really safe to assume that none of these people will trip over the story? Equally important, is it safe to assume that because the story is not about them personally that they won't be hurt/shocked/upset/appalled? Do they deserve to be hurt just because you wanted to get your ya-yas off with a person instead of a character, and wanted to do so in a semi-public forum?

Not to mention that just because they don't say anything directly to you doesn't mean that they don't know. If you suspected someone of stalking you, would your first impulse be to talk to them, or to gather up your information and quietly talk to the authorities? Particularly if they might be going somewhere, say, a convention, where you might attend and they were worried about their safety? (I work conventions, I've been in fandom for decades. I am so not joking here. It only takes one stalker scare for a fan club to lose their star or for a previously wonderful guest to stop coming.)

Is it really all worth it just to be able to write a story about a real person? A person you don't know anyway? Trust me, no matter how friendly they are, how many interviews they give, you don't actually know them.

Think they're hot? Think they ought to be with someone of your choosing? For the love of sanity, write about their character and you can safely bang 'em like a gong. Fictional people doing fictional things is a victimless crime. But for heaven's sake, if you're attracted to an actual person then grant them the dignity of treating them like people!

And no, the golden rule doesn't apply if you wish people were writing torrid RPS about you. Get a sex life of your own!

*snork!*

Mar. 10th, 2005 01:52 pm
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From [livejournal.com profile] fanthropology, [livejournal.com profile] junediamanti's hilarious Fandom Grammar:

I am a fanfic writer with a devoted and intelligent readership

You are a fanfic writer with a lot of fangirls

She is a deranged egomaniac with pathetic sycophants and minions.

……………………

I am a writer of edgy and controversial stories

You are a writer of dark fics, which are a bit melodramatic

She is a complete angst whore.

…………………


Go read the comments too. The full lyrics to "I’m a complete and utter pillock and I don’t care…" are not to be missed.
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Fangirlism the first: SG-1:
I totally had to rewatch the "Jack introduces the barber to Sam and Daniel" scene about 4 times. Aside from being screamingly funny, they should show that in acting classes on how to deliver 1000 words of characterization in 5 words or less. "Alarm." "I'm thinkin' dog." (I do wonder, however, just how much of that was actually scripted. It had the feel of really good improv, esp. the line about "You could start locking your front door.")

Also? Michael Shanks has incredible onscreen chemistry with anyone. Put him together with Naveen Andrews! No, wait, don't, because if you do, millions of fangirls will explode from estrogen overload.

Fangirlism the second: Justice League Unlimited
I can't believe nobody in my f-list is discussing this - between the Batman/Wonder Woman stifled OTP and the Justice Lords continuing thread, I'm practically running in circles going "Eeep! Squeee! Eeep!"

Damn, I wish I'd been taping all these shows. (Don't have anything that isn't out pro. Yes, silly me.) I have a feeling I'm going to have to throw myself on someone's bootlegged mercy until WB belatedly gets around to maybe choking up boxed sets. It only took them how many years with Batman & Superman (and will we get the Batman/Superman hour? Because that was a kickass set of opening credits.)

Hey, doesn't someone owe me a Batman/Wonderwoman ficlit for charity?

Snurched/gakked whateverLJism from [livejournal.com profile] havocthecat: What kind of fan am I? )
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...the more they stay the same.

Mainstreaming back into BatB fandom is proceeding nicely apace. It is a great deal like stepping back in time to before the fandom ripped itself apart, except that I already own a lot of the stuff.

And that's a *good* thing, because if there was one tradition BatB fandom was known for, it was the hideously overpriced zine... and that hasn't changed. It's just that this time they're not overcharging because "we don't know any better/people will pay anything" it's because "it's a rare out of print zine."

Either way, I keep ending up paying $15 and more for zines that AREN'T EVEN 100 bloody pages long!

Thank heaven for the Internet fic archives, that's all I've got to say. So much cheaper and easier to print it and format it myself. I made dozens of frankenzines back in the day and I see that I'm going to be doing more of it now.

Other than that, the honeymoon continues, and that's a good thing. Beauty and the Beast was the only fandom I was run out of, and it's lovely to go home again. Even after home burnt down, fell over, and sank into the swamp.

And considering how much upheaval is in the rest of my life, it's nice to have a fandom to bury myself in.
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One TV show that leaps off the screen and grows too big for even fandom.

A generation ago it was Star Trek, that cheese-filled "Wagon Train In Space." They had no budget, no stars, no special effects, no network support -- and everyone else had no clue what was about to happen.
With nothing else to fall back on, Gene Roddenberry used the only tools he had at his disposal - story and character. His stories were set in the future, but they were all about the society right then and there. Racial prejudice. The difficult choices commanders must make. Social unrest. "We shall not make war... today."

And yet there was fun too; tribbles and androids and Mudd, oh my!

And now, there is... well, as of last night, there was... Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

Like Trek before it, Buffy had incredible characters and even more incredible stories - while episodes or story arcs may singly fail, the underlying metaphor was always sound. School is hell. Adulthood can be worse. Some people do want to suck the life out of you. We recognized people we knew, people we were in Buffy, Xander, Willow, Giles, even Jonathan and Tara and Anya.

Buffy has suffered in seasons of late; the underlying metaphor took several hits, and characters became pompous and self-involved, shaking the teamwork that had always been a key part of Buffy's (and the show's) survival. Yes, it was time for it to go away for a while, have a rest, maybe come back refreshed in a sequel in Joss' capable hands much later.

But first, that finale. Star Trek never had one, and in some ways, that's best. The show just goes away one night, and leaves its storyline in the hands of the faithful fans. That certainly beats the F&#$ YOU! attitude some producers have towards their own creations and those of us who love them. How many shows haven't so much ended as self-destructed? Blake's 7, Highlander, Forever Knight, Sliders, Poltergeist the Legacy, on and on and on... it's as if the producers sat down and said "we want to hurt everyone who loves our show as much as possible. We're going to kill their characters, blow up their settings, and spit on their hopes. Nobody gets to be happy, on or off screen."

And then there are the prematurely murdered series - Alien Nation, Remember WENN, Farscape, Brisco County.... They didn't mean to jerk us around, leaving us on a cliffhanger. It was someone higher up than the producer who did it. But they *did* just the same.

Any fan who says they weren't afraid that the last episode of Buffy would be a painful trainwreck is a liar. But bless Joss, who has managed to give us and ending and a beginning all at once. Buffy's story as The Slayer is over, but the Buffyverse lives on. Sunnydale's demons are slain, but there's another hellmouth in Cleveland. No cliffhanger. No death, despair, and devastation. (Well, okay, devastation. And some death. About average for a Buffy episode, actually. This is, after all, the show that took her to the mall with a rocket launcher.)

It felt good. It felt right. It was a worthy end to a 7-year-ride like few others.

Buffy the Vampire Slayer
1996 - 2003
It saved genre TV from mediocrity. A lot.

The Slayer is gone. Long live the Slayers.

Postscript: Buffy may have been shut out of other awards, but the S7 episode "Conversations with Dead People" won the 2003 Hugo for Best Short Form Presentation (their rather clunkily named TV award.)

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